Whos running 380-400bhp on a standard 5 speed
05 July 2011, 01:17 PM
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I test drove my mate's previous Type R STi 5 (prior to him buying it), and even at its dyno'd 267bhp (a bit down on the factory 276), the gearing made it feel mental!
God knows what c.380+/380+ would feel like!
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05 July 2011, 01:31 PM
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I know its not a 5 speed but my 45k 6 speed jdm box lasted about 5k and 6 trackdays at 460/460 before I broke synchros/selector fingers/selector rods so anything can be broken if abused. I ran it on Silkolene silktrans oil too which aint cheap!!
05 July 2011, 01:42 PM
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Linky???
Im running a 5 speed at the moment with 210k kms on a sti wagon with ej257 with a fresh forged engine the 2.5 conversion was done at 159k kms. I'm only running actuator pressure at the moment as I want to get a proper map on it (Autronic Ecu).Id say I'll destroy the box on dyno knowing my luck
Was running 350ft/lb torque before the build at 1.5 bar. The box is noisey though in some gears, oil is clean and no selection problems whatsoever. Play it by year and see
Im running a 5 speed at the moment with 210k kms on a sti wagon with ej257 with a fresh forged engine the 2.5 conversion was done at 159k kms. I'm only running actuator pressure at the moment as I want to get a proper map on it (Autronic Ecu).Id say I'll destroy the box on dyno knowing my luck
Was running 350ft/lb torque before the build at 1.5 bar. The box is noisey though in some gears, oil is clean and no selection problems whatsoever. Play it by year and see
05 July 2011, 01:45 PM
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Linky???
Im running a 5 speed at the moment with 210k kms on a sti wagon with ej257 with a fresh forged engine the 2.5 conversion was done at 159k kms. I'm only running actuator pressure at the moment as I want to get a proper map on it (Autronic Ecu).Id say I'll destroy the box on dyno knowing my luck
Was running 350ft/lb torque before the build at 1.5 bar. The box is noisey though in some gears, oil is clean and no selection problems whatsoever. Play it by year and see
Im running a 5 speed at the moment with 210k kms on a sti wagon with ej257 with a fresh forged engine the 2.5 conversion was done at 159k kms. I'm only running actuator pressure at the moment as I want to get a proper map on it (Autronic Ecu).Id say I'll destroy the box on dyno knowing my luck
Was running 350ft/lb torque before the build at 1.5 bar. The box is noisey though in some gears, oil is clean and no selection problems whatsoever. Play it by year and see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CjzoJk4Od0
There's a few on his channel
05 July 2011, 03:39 PM
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Over 400 of each on the same box with a 2.1 a 20G and methanol, will soon see how it lasts with a 2.35
Ran about 380-400 on my old 2.0L with the 20G and methanol on my 752 box without it ever grenading as well.
But I'm always waiting for it to happen, which in it's self can be quite worrying if I'm far from home.
Ran about 380-400 on my old 2.0L with the 20G and methanol on my 752 box without it ever grenading as well.
But I'm always waiting for it to happen, which in it's self can be quite worrying if I'm far from home.
05 July 2011, 03:56 PM
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I do miss the short ratio though.
05 July 2011, 06:05 PM
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As it's the physical extra width of the 6-sp's teeth, i.e. wider cogs, that give the gears the extra strength and greater torque-handling capacity.
'Only' 3 (worthwhile) upgrade options available:-
1st - OEM New Age 6-sp (esp. the Hawkeye's - stronger synchros and strongest all round).
2nd - Scooby Clinic's 5-sp replacement gear set (enthusiastically endorsed by API David
)3rd - PPG 5-sp replacement gear set (but doesn't come with a 5th - but think you can pay extra for it?)
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05 July 2011, 06:51 PM
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OEM 6-sp (used)
c.£1300 to c.£2500 depending on MY/type/age/miles/how greedy the seller is
SC
http://www.scoobyclinic.com/products_clutches.htm
PPG
http://www.ppgearbox.com.au/page.asp?categoryid=14
c.£1300 to c.£2500 depending on MY/type/age/miles/how greedy the seller is
SC
http://www.scoobyclinic.com/products_clutches.htm
PPG
http://www.ppgearbox.com.au/page.asp?categoryid=14
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05 July 2011, 07:15 PM
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06 July 2011, 09:34 AM
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We've got two late model 6 speed Dccd 2008 hatch boxes available at the moment. Complete kit with prop, linkage, mounting, clutch fork, stump shafts 3.9 ratio with 1 : 1 drops meaning 3.9 required for the rear. Either R160 or R180 can be provided at extra cost. Guaranteed boxes.
£2650.00 + VAT plus a diff if you need.
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Apologies for the thread hijack it wasn't intended that way.
£2650.00 + VAT plus a diff if you need.
Form a queue here guys.
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Apologies for the thread hijack it wasn't intended that way.
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06 July 2011, 10:10 AM
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We've got two late model 6 speed Dccd 2008 hatch boxes available at the moment. Complete kit with prop, linkage, mounting, clutch fork, stump shafts 3.9 ratio with 1 : 1 drops meaning 3.9 required for the rear. Either R160 or R180 can be provided at extra cost. Guaranteed boxes.
£2650.00 + VAT plus a diff if you need.
Form a queue here guys.
David API
01926 614333
£2650.00 + VAT plus a diff if you need.
Form a queue here guys.
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* David, are these even stronger than the previous gen. Hawkeye's box?
* Is there a non-DCCD version - i.e. regular 50:50 split - of the MY08 Hatch's 6-sp, too?
* So, everything is included in the kit for a "drive in/drive out" swap over (inc. either the 3.9:1 R160 or R180 rear diff, as needed)? How much for the diff on top?
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06 July 2011, 10:27 AM
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I think it all depends on driving style. You can use 400bhp well without ragging the gearbox. There is always exceptions to all rules but in general if your 350+ then put a little aside each month towards a new box just incase lol
06 July 2011, 02:17 PM
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Fab!
* David, are these even stronger than the previous gen. Hawkeye's box?
* Is there a non-DCCD version - i.e. regular 50:50 split - of the MY08 Hatch's 6-sp, too?
* So, everything is included in the kit for a "drive in/drive out" swap over (inc. either the 3.9:1 R160 or R180 rear diff, as needed)? How much for the diff on top?
* David, are these even stronger than the previous gen. Hawkeye's box?
* Is there a non-DCCD version - i.e. regular 50:50 split - of the MY08 Hatch's 6-sp, too?
* So, everything is included in the kit for a "drive in/drive out" swap over (inc. either the 3.9:1 R160 or R180 rear diff, as needed)? How much for the diff on top?
ALL UK supplied 6 speeds were dccd from WR1 onwards. These ones have a near as dammit 50 /50 split All hatch 6 speeders are 3.9 front 3.9 rear.
The gearbox kit as above is everything you need. Rear diff is extra at £350.00 + VAT [ £420.00 inc ] for a viscous R160 rebuilt / checked here. R180 rear diff with Suretrack - rebuilt / checked as above is £750.00 + VAT [ £900.00 inc ]
R180 3.9's are really hard to get these days and the price reflects the rarity value.
David
