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Sorry, but the first picture in that article is no better than some Chav smashing up a car. I cannot believe that is Police behaviour. It's a disgrace. No matter what the old fella did, he did not deserve that.
I'm totally behind the Police in this instance.
There are more than a few "retired businessmen" round my way driving Range Rovers with tinted windows who are far from doddery old men...
Also looks like there's a bit of history there from yorvik's post.
Well im with the cops on this one, the driver of the range rover passed atleast one place to pull over and let the cops past if he thought they were not chasing him, he carried on, so failing to stop shows some form of intent to evade there, plus why was he still driving after suffering a stroke? he should have been banned medically for that, especially as he was "recovering" from said medical condition.
If he couldnt hear the "ping, ping, ping" of the seatbelt warning, then he probably didnt hear the cops behind him!!
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What a complete over reaction by the police. He was hardly speeding away. If he was being chased by the police for not wearing a seatbelt then they should of seen that it was an old man driving. Hardly a drug criminal!
Absolute disgrace and hope the police officers are drummed out of the police!
He deserves more than £20k in compensation, the police could of killed him of shock for what, a minor infringement!
What a complete over reaction by the police. He was hardly speeding away. If he was being chased by the police for not wearing a seatbelt then they should of seen that it was an old man driving. Hardly a drug criminal!
Absolute disgrace and hope the police officers are drummed out of the police!
He deserves more than £20k in compensation, the police could of killed him of shock for what, a minor infringement!
so despite running away for nearly 20 mins you think they should have just tapped on his window? All he had to do was pull over, instead he carried on driving.
There reaction is understandable, they have a 3 tonne car, with a driver who has failed to comply with there stop comands. Go on you tube and look for videos where police officers are struck by cars as they pull away when they get out to go speak to the driver after they pull them over. They go in hard to shock the driver into compying if they havn't followed instructions, i can't blame them for reacting like that at all and i think they did the right thing
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How many times have you come across an old driver who doesn't even know you are there even after following them for miles. I'm not saying what he did was right but he was more than likely one of those fogies that just doesn't know what is happening around them, Yes he shouldn't be allowed on the road and probably needs a retest + hearing test.
However there was no cause to beat the sh*t of of his window and jump on the bonnet and kick the screen in. The original offence was for not wearing a seat belt, so the police would have clearly seen he was on old fella, plus the pnc would also confirm that he was the RK confirming his elderly status.
Just a gross abuse of position, hence £20k out of court settlement.
Now if the vehicle had accelerated away at speed and had a young driver, different kettle of fish. The police just didn't think about who was driving.
If you read the full account you will know that he drove off whilst the officers were trying to give him a NIP! His excuse was he thought they had finished dealing with him,
He was well aware the police were dealing with him and his excuse for not stopping when being chased? He thought the police were escorting him home FFS!
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Clearly you don't understand satire which is understandable you may be an idiot, I dunno! Plus there wasn't a smiley face on my post so how could you possibly tell? What did we do before smileys, eh?
Racist - ok I'll give you that one but nob? Now that's just out of order!
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The old tw@t was probably half blind and deaf like most coffin dodgers on the roads so he probably didn`t even know they were behind him.
Some day you might just be lucky enough to reach that age. You should be worrying how life will be for you if that is how you regard all elderly people.
You cannot justify being so thoroughly nasty about someone because of their age unless of course you know the man personally, and even then then you would be being childishly ill mannered.
Incidentally I know of 70 year olds who might well make you look very incompetent at a track day.
Some day you might just be lucky enough to reach that age. You should be worrying how life will be for you if that is how you regard all elderly people.
You cannot justify being so thoroughly nasty about someone because of their age unless of course you know the man personally, and even then then you would be being childishly ill mannered.
Incidentally I know of 70 year olds who might well make you look very incompetent at a track day.
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To be fair though Les, the average 70 year old driver isn't gonna be found on a trackday though are they? The odds are with them driving slowly but surely on a road somewhere holding others up. Now I have patience but if they are oblivious to their surroundings then they need to be off the road and using other means (just like other drivers of all ages)
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That guy only stopped because there were policemen up a head, possibly blocking the road (can't confirm this as it out of shot) but one of the Policeman can be clearly seen up the road when the illegally blacked out Range Rover with non regulation number plates was stopped before the other one jumped on to the bonnet. Otherwise he would have carried on his 17 minute merry chase.
got everything he deserves, sick of old c**ts on the road thinkin they can get away with everything they do, no sympathy, he should have stopped i hope he got the book thrown at him.
I have a Rangerover sport and inside with the radio on you don't here sirens that well and I have good hearing, he was just not paying attention to what was behind him by the looks of it and learnt the hard way.
As for paying him comp I don't agree with that, like it or not he failed to stop simple as that stupid old git should of been paying attention to the road in front and behind him..
To be fair though Les, the average 70 year old driver isn't gonna be found on a trackday though are they? The odds are with them driving slowly but surely on a road somewhere holding others up. Now I have patience but if they are oblivious to their surroundings then they need to be off the road and using other means (just like other drivers of all ages)
If it is a matter of being fair COB, then it is quite wrong to tar all older drivers with the same brush. It is quite wrong to post what is a pure assumption by someone who obviously considers himself to be grossly superior.
Of course there are elderly drivers who will drive at a speed at which they feel safe and comfortable. If that slows someone down, especially if they want to exceed the speed limit, then they have to practice a little patience. The slower drivers are not breaking the law unless they were deliberately attempting to cause an obstruction anyway.
I agree that if they are so far gone that they are oblivious to what is happening around them then they should not be driving. That is self evident.
The real point is, no one is so important that they can consider themselves in a position to insult another driver for driving more slowly than he wants to, especially in the way that the above poster did when he had not even met the driver. That is just purely ill mannered and unnecessary behaviour!
If it is a matter of being fair COB, then it is quite wrong to tar all older drivers with the same brush. It is quite wrong to post what is a pure assumption by someone who obviously considers himself to be grossly superior.
Of course there are elderly drivers who will drive at a speed at which they feel safe and comfortable. If that slows someone down, especially if they want to exceed the speed limit, then they have to practice a little patience. The slower drivers are not breaking the law unless they were deliberately attempting to cause an obstruction anyway.
I agree that if they are so far gone that they are oblivious to what is happening around them then they should not be driving. That is self evident.
The real point is, no one is so important that they can consider themselves in a position to insult another driver for driving more slowly than he wants to, especially in the way that the above poster did when he had not even met the driver. That is just purely ill mannered and unnecessary behaviour!
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If you want to go along those lines and split hairs Les, then I would call older drivers who do drive well below the speed limit (in their safe zone or whatever) I'll 'mannered and unnecessary'. They are knowingly holding other drivers (who may wish to drive at the speed limit) up, so it works both ways. I cannot count the amount of times an elderly driver has been poor long along a straight bit of NSL road at 35-40mph with no awareness of their surroundings. And then they have the gaul to flash me when I correctly manoeuvre to overtake (within the speed limit)..
Sorry Les, I'm going off personal experience and if I come to that level of incompetence on the road then I'll retire my drivers licence.
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Couldn't get it to load, but I have now. I still say the Law were heavy handed.
Why did they have to smash the old guys windows the minute he stopped.
OK he took a while to notice them but still. Over the top in my opinion
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If you want to go along those lines and split hairs Les, then I would call older drivers who do drive well below the speed limit (in their safe zone or whatever) I'll 'mannered and unnecessary'. They are knowingly holding other drivers (who may wish to drive at the speed limit) up, so it works both ways. I cannot count the amount of times an elderly driver has been poor long along a straight bit of NSL road at 35-40mph with no awareness of their surroundings. And then they have the gaul to flash me when I correctly manoeuvre to overtake (within the speed limit)..
Sorry Les, I'm going off personal experience and if I come to that level of incompetence on the road then I'll retire my drivers licence.
Gonna have to agree with you there. ANYONE who has ever had to get to work on a Sunday has suffered from "the elderly drivers infront". No point overtaking them either because there is too many of them littering the roads going to the beach possibly to die after eating some cucumber sandwichs, no ones in a hurry to die so they drive at a relaxed pace whilst you tear your hair out at the absurdity of traveling along a NSL road at 27mph.
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If you want to go along those lines and split hairs Les, then I would call older drivers who do drive well below the speed limit (in their safe zone or whatever) I'll 'mannered and unnecessary'. They are knowingly holding other drivers (who may wish to drive at the speed limit) up, so it works both ways. I cannot count the amount of times an elderly driver has been poor long along a straight bit of NSL road at 35-40mph with no awareness of their surroundings. And then they have the gaul to flash me when I correctly manoeuvre to overtake (within the speed limit)..
Sorry Les, I'm going off personal experience and if I come to that level of incompetence on the road then I'll retire my drivers licence.
I don't actually want to split hairs COB, but we have to accept that the speed limit is a maximum for that piece of road, it is not against the law to drive below that. We do have roads around here which are at the NSR but just about everyone without exception will drive at 10mph below the limit because it feels just a bit safer because of the width of the road and its blind bends..
Yes I know it is annoying if you get flashed for overtaking a slower driver, but you have to ask yourself if the other driver could have had a reason for it. It get done by quite young drivers at times!
I personally would prefer to have a bit of patience and wait unless there is a really clear place to overtake without upsetting anyone which always seems easy to do whether the one being overtaking is elderly or not! People just don't like being overtaken I find.
Its a matter of making allowances for someone who is older and thinks more slowly at the same time remembering that it comes to us all eventually!
I still think it is poor behaviour to vilify someone because of their age.
I don't actually want to split hairs COB, but we have to accept that the speed limit is a maximum for that piece of road, it is not against the law to drive below that. We do have roads around here which are at the NSR but just about everyone without exception will drive at 10mph below the limit because it feels just a bit safer because of the width of the road and its blind bends..
yes you can, its known as failing to make proper progress i believe, however road conditions have to be taken into account.
oh dear, you've obviously not seen his mum!
