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Old 12 March 2007, 23:22   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Whats the difference between lacquer and varnish?

Say for example on oak?
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Old 13 March 2007, 22:39   #2 (permalink)
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This is a big subject and different experts argue ad-nauseum as to what is lacquer and what is varnish! Eg. according to many polishers the polyurethane 'varnish' we buy in the diy ships is really a lacquer! The following URL will give you a reasonable explanation.

Understanding Wood Finishes

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Thanks.
The reason i ask is the varnish you buy in B Q has a "plasticky" feel to it, whereas most modern furniture has a "harder" finish. The brochure usually says water based laqcuer.
Personally polyuethane varnish can feel a bit cheap.
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I agree. Most furniture we buy has been sprayed with cellulose lacquer - which is durable and has a slightly waxy look. Whereas Polyurethane - which we apply with brush tends to look plasticky. I would suggest you try Sadolin Polyurethane varnish with Teflon surface protection - clear satin finish. It is expensive but you will get durability and a non plastcky look. And you can wash the brushes in water. It dries in about an hour. Because it dries quickly avoid over brushing and use good quality brushes for a really good finish. It is quite thin and you will require about 3 coats - but it will not look like - layer upon layer - like polyurethane. I hope this helps

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Okay thanks. I notice in your profile you are interested in woodwork / DIY. Have you ever thought about taking any finished peices to a local joiner who may have a spray booth and can apply a finish professionally or do you always do it yourself. The finish you get on decent shop bought furniture is usually of a very high standard. Is it ever possible to replicate this at home?
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I live in London and there are no nearby joinery workshops where I could go. in any case It is very difficult for workshops to cater for small jobs because of economics - the loading of polishes into the spray guns - and then cleaning them - time consuming - hence they would have to charge you a lot. They usually say no. You can get as good (if not exactly the same) results as the shop finished yourself with carefulness and dilligence. Old saying - preparation. preperation...... do not rush. use all grades of sandpaper finsihing with 00. After that I usually use a hoover with a brush to clean - this way I lift all the dust. Then wipe with a clean cloth moist with white spirit. Good qality brushes - use high quality varnish (like Sadolin etc.) Before the final coat rub down very litely with 000 grade sand paper to remove the 'nibs' -again wipe with very slightly moist (almost dry) white spirit cloth. Let it dry then apply the final coat - along the grain. You will get good results. Follow the instructions on the tin to the letter. If they say allow 24 hrs betwen coats - there is a good reason for it. If you want more info send me a PM I will be happy to discuss. Good luck

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Thanks for the advice.
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Preperation is the key

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