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Old 29 June 2009, 10:54   #1 (permalink)
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In preparation for a new kitchen I've taken down a wooden ceiling and started removing wall tiles.

Ceiling isn't too bad.
There are 3 bit holes where the previous owned had those big 80mm spotlights fitted, and 1 area(approx 1ft sq.) where clearly there has been a leak from bathroom and its bowed a little.

Walls - we'll what can I say.
Some bits are good, some not so good.

I want the whole kitchen replastered, I've been told that plasters will not put stuff on top of old tile adhesive.
Is this true and if so how do you removed the old adhesive?

Size approx 12ft 6 by 7ft 6
Floor to ceiling is approx 7ft

Obviously not all needs replastered - i.e. under worktops etc.

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I don't see any reason why they wouldn't skim over adhesive, as long as it's not protruding out too far. With the ceiling it might be an idea to overboard it then have that skimmed, (what I did in my house)

I suppose all plasterers work differently, so might be an idea to just ask the guy that is going to be doing the work, might save you a load of grief.
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OK. I've just rang a guy recommended to me, he's going to look at it tonight.
He says he'll put a bit of bonding on it, that'll cover up the damaged bits etc.
He'll know what to do with the ceiling after he sees it first hand.
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I had some Artex skimmed, most of the old Artex pealed off, that which didn't I sanded as flat as I could with a belt sander, you can hire them, allow at LEAST 6 belts for a room

The result, in my case, was excellent.
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Most Artex can be leveled before plastering using a scraper, like this, I use double the size but harder work to use. Then PVA the ceiling and it's ready to plaster, if very rough then bonding first, but most can go straight to finish.
http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/569494..._strippers.jpg
Use the same to remove the worst of tile adhesive.

For the ceiling, if holes / damage, as Cookie suggested, best to board over the old ceiling, then skim.
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Walls fine with regards to old adhesive.
Plasterer going to apply some bonding on walls before finish.
Ceiling is fcuked basically.
He will rip it down, put new plaster board up and finish.
He says just as cheap instead of having to try and repair damage to ceiling.

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WRT the Artex comments above... don't forget that older Artex may contain asbestos, so bear that in mind when thinking about working on it.
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Walls fine with regards to old adhesive.
Plasterer going to apply some bonding on walls before finish.
Ceiling is fcuked basically.
He will rip it down, put new plaster board up and finish.
He says just as cheap instead of having to try and repair damage to ceiling.

Shaun
Rip it down? God man I'm assuming you know how much mess that will make, been there done that.
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Rip it down? God man I'm assuming you know how much mess that will make, been there done that.
Yep, makes a right mess, hence why we flatten any heavy texture coat, then overboard with 12.5 mm board and 50mm fixtings.
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Rip it down? God man I'm assuming you know how much mess that will make, been there done that.
Not really?

However, lets set the scene.
Its an 12ft 6 by 8ft 6 kitchen.
At the point in time of him riping down the ceiling it will be an empty room
Plan is he and his workers (there will be 3 men there) rip it down, i'll probably break it up a bit and bag it ready for the recycling facility aka dump.

Had another guy out last night who says that he can fix the damage without taking it down, but admits taking it down would be a better job.

I think I'm still going for taking it down?

Am I mad then?
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Not really?

However, lets set the scene.
Its an 12ft 6 by 8ft 6 kitchen.
At the point in time of him riping down the ceiling it will be an empty room
Plan is he and his workers (there will be 3 men there) rip it down, i'll probably break it up a bit and bag it ready for the recycling facility aka dump.

Had another guy out last night who says that he can fix the damage without taking it down, but admits taking it down would be a better job.

I think I'm still going for taking it down?

Am I mad then?
Not mad, I suppose if you have three guys there clearing up etc then it's not so bad.

Just in case he doesn't do it, tape plastic to all doorways leading off the kitchen, as this dust travels, and far. You will be dusting for days afterwards, then 5 mins later it's back.


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Good man

Thanks for the tip about taping up the doorways - never really thought about that.
Only 1 door to worry about then, other door is outside.
So - keep back door and kitchen windows open
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