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Old 26 June 2009, 11:51   #1 (permalink)
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Question DCCD uk 6 speeds fitting?

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Just wonder what's the min you'd need to fit a DCCD 6 speed to a car with std uk 6 speed? Including electronic control box, interior switch contol, etc...

Does the box need wiring to ecu in any way as I've got simtek installed? I guess the box and rear diff would need changing but not the drive shafts?

Where's best place to source one that's in good condition with guarantee?
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Old 26 June 2009, 12:58   #2 (permalink)
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Old 26 June 2009, 17:13   #3 (permalink)
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It's worse than you think !

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Driveshafts change depending on year, IIRC, "all" you need is the add-on dccd controller, a DCCD centre diff and cover, and someone like Andrew Carr to wire it up, and explain it, and ta da !

Scoobytechnix often have them lying around, a fellow WYIOC has done this to his blob-eye, and Mr. Carr is a local too !

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Old 26 June 2009, 23:07   #4 (permalink)
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It's worse than you think !

LOL

Driveshafts change depending on year, IIRC, "all" you need is the add-on dccd controller, a DCCD centre diff and cover, and someone like Andrew Carr to wire it up, and explain it, and ta da !

Scoobytechnix often have them lying around, a fellow WYIOC has done this to his blob-eye, and Mr. Carr is a local too !

HTH

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Was hoping for somewhere more local in south west for supply and fit...

Dunx, the controller is the black box plus a roller switch yeh? Do you need that wired to ecu etc or engine sensors? The DCCD centre diff is within the box so I'd need another box and what's a cover? R180 rear diffs okay depending on model of DCCD box you get? Sorry for more questions but I really dont know on DCCD's and want to learn more before deciding on go or no go for it. cheers all.
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Old 26 June 2009, 23:22   #5 (permalink)
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You can buy a Neetronics, that does the clever bit, or you can buy the wheel, and a new set of clocks and maybe (?) a new ecu to drive it all !

Nasty HUH ? The cover is just part of the gearbox casing through which the wires emerge on their way to/from the std. ecu/replacement controller.

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P.S. I was thinking about doing this next year.... maybe not ! I'm no expert - as you can plainly see ! LOL

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Old 26 June 2009, 23:40   #6 (permalink)
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Rats dunx...this is starting to smell.....bad Why is everytin like an open cheque book on a scooby?

Think I'll get a quote for my gearbox repair with lid off as is and decide from there. Not changing my simtek nor do want more stuff wired around it as have all sorts of other things routing that way as is inc WI, etc...sod...argh...ah!
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Old 27 June 2009, 11:04   #7 (permalink)
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You COULD try and source a Kazz 35:65 centre diff, whilst yours is open.... an option I'm looking at.

Sorry no details so far.

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P.S. Once yours is sorted it will have a value on the second hand market to offset the DCCD replacement.
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Old 27 June 2009, 20:00   #8 (permalink)
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Hmm, Kazz 35:65 centre diff, what does that do to driving character? I take it we just move power split from 49/51 to 35:65 fixed? Would rear diff need changing, I dont understand des tings.

I bet like everything its not a straight fit like it says in the manual...

I'll prob just keep my six once I get her fixed, getting so fed up of having to take her here there and everywhere for work to be done which always costs twice as much as quoted...been doing that for 3 years now and I just want to drive and use her.

DCCD sounds like complex setup...also read it clunks alot, something I dont like as anyone gets in it always comments on any noise she makes, like crunch gears of clunk of box (not that the current 6 does that). I just want everyone hear her purr (loudly )
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Should just drop in, no user adjustments, Partbox used to list them, but not any more....

No other mods needed, centre diff just splits torque to suit so has the same "gearing".

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Should just drop in, no user adjustments, Partbox used to list them, but not any more....

No other mods needed, centre diff just splits torque to suit so has the same "gearing".

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Found some but looked at pricing and thought, nnnaaa:

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I might just try and pick up a cheap 2nd hand 6 speed as donor box and produce one good one, replacing sync with new though, be happy at that and just no roller switch to play with in car... No toys.
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Oer ! My last post has vanished....

They are classic fit, not sure if it will fit a six speed box .
I'm struggling to find one, maybe I'm old AND stupid.

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P.S. Wouldn't synchs be way cheaper than another box ?
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Controller: www.ddcdpro.com
Buy the dual-mode for the 300 USD and hook it up. Fairly easy to hook up. Provide 12 volt and run the two wires down to the DCCD on the egarbox and you are up running.
Did this myself, but wanted to use the Auto/Manual STI switch and the thumbwheel so too a bit more wiring to do, but it works like a charm.
The new model even indicate how much the DCCD is working front/back by the LED on the Auto / Manual switch LED. COOL.
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I take it this DCCDpro controller can be fitted to any newage STi?
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Yes the DCCDPro is independant on the car model. All it need is 12V and a DCCD on the gearbox to hook up to.
The DCCDPro comes with everything else you need, including a G-sensor and all switches.
It is a really easy install job and the controller just works. Oh one thing, you have to hook it up to the Throttle Position Sensor on the ECU if you want the controller to provide faster reaction. But that is a piece of cake if you know how to solder just a tiny bit. You find the wire, strip a bit of the insulation of the wire, solder the DCCDPro wire together with the TPS wire, wrap it with some electrical insulation tape and you'r done.
If I lived in the UK I would be more than happy to give you a hand, but it is pretty far to drive from Denmark
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I am a marine engineer so the fitting of it is not a problem.

I was just unsure whether I could fit it to my 04 STi. I think I may have to invest in one seeing as the exchange rate is getting slightly better.
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04 sti = no problem
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It's worse than you think !

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Driveshafts change depending on year, IIRC, "all" you need is the add-on dccd controller, a DCCD centre diff and cover, and someone like Andrew Carr to wire it up, and explain it, and ta da !

Scoobytechnix often have them lying around, a fellow WYIOC has done this to his blob-eye, and Mr. Carr is a local too !

HTH

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Hey Dunx, do you have contact details for Scoobytechnix?

Cheers
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