is this a genuine td05 20g?

j16jrf · 14 March 2008, 22:50

scoobysmiff · 15 March 2008, 08:41

looks like one of the JAWarehouse ones to me Jamie, It certainly isn't the same as one of Harvey Smiths excellent offerings, i shall post pictures for comparison in a short while.

This one would not worth the effort imo!

mr.sheen · 15 March 2008, 12:05

anyone else?

we need to know as we were goin to fit it tomorrow, but not if its a JA stunt double

j16jrf · 15 March 2008, 12:35

yes was sold this from a SN member saying it was a genuine refurbed 20G and he is not answering pm's to me.

need to know for sure before i can see what my next step is.

thanks
Jamie

Leg@cy · 15 March 2008, 12:44

This is mine as supplied by Mr Forrest

hope that helps

j16jrf · 15 March 2008, 12:56

but andy modifys his so they do look different, like th nipple beside your turbine blades there, mine is in the inlet of the turbo??

i am starting to get a bit angry here and wonder where i stand legally with being sold something that is not as described??

i paid through paypal so surely i will have come back through them?

g7prs · 15 March 2008, 13:01

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Originally Posted by j16jrf

but andy modifys his so they do look different, like th nipple beside your turbine blades there, mine is in the inlet of the turbo??

i am starting to get a bit angry here and wonder where i stand legally with being sold something that is not as described??

i paid through paypal so surely i will have come back through them?

Looking at the picture in this link
SUBARU WRX STI Turbocharger cartridge TD05H-20G 420BHP on eBay, also Other Performance Parts, Performance Tuning Parts, Car Tuning Styling, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 12-Apr-08 11:19:27 BST)

Like you said the housing and nipples are different looking to andys one.

Yours looks like that one with the identification plate removed.

j16jrf · 15 March 2008, 13:16

see thats what i think too and there are horror stories about the jawarehouse turbos.

if this is the case i will just have to put a dispute in with paypal ad get my money back on it.

why can people not be honest when selling something.

i will not name the person on the forum if i can get the resolution i am after with the turbo, though i have sent him 3 pms now and can see he was online this morning at 7.30 and still no reply.

doesnt look good.

I will give him until tomorrow to respond then i will have no choice but to take further action on it.

Leg@cy · 15 March 2008, 13:42

that ebay ad is a bit misleading, is it not?

fist sentence states "with Cover and 1.2bar actutor / 420~450 HP"

and 2nd sentence states "compressor housing and 1 bar actuator."

Not being an expert......

j16jrf · 15 March 2008, 14:08

if i had bought it off ebay i would just return it

PADDYHOEY · 15 March 2008, 15:20

how can u tell the difference between 16g 18g &20g turbos??

scoobysmiff · 15 March 2008, 18:40

Jamie,

Here's my Harvey Smith TD05/06-20G

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As you can see, this Harvey Smith turbo and the already aforementioned Andy Forrest turbo are quite different to the thing you have been sold.
I would be inclined to think that the 20g that you already have will be a step back from your Vf22!

OLLIeRB5 · 15 March 2008, 18:42

unreal mate, i`ve also just got stroked for my SARD FPR by a member on here...

really makes you wonder why you bother in most cases!!!!!

scoobysmiff · 15 March 2008, 19:02

Name and shame then gents, it will be the only way we can stamp it out! we will also know who is not trustworthy either!

**johnnyroper** · 15 March 2008, 19:27

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Originally Posted by scoobysmiff

Name and shame then gents, it will be the only way we can stamp it out! we will also know who is not trustworthy either!

agreed name and shame the scammers

j16jrf · 15 March 2008, 20:33

i dont want to name and shame yet guys, its early days yet. Want to give him a chance to rectify the situation amicably.

i dont want any hard feelings just want to send the turbo back and get a refund thats all.

pmacFTO · 15 March 2008, 20:41

hmmm...are standard scooby turbos usually stamped with a mitsubishi logo? or does someone else make them and they are used in Evos and Scoobys?

hux309 · 15 March 2008, 20:44

The td turbo's are indeed mitsubishi and were used in early lancer evo's iirc.

j16jrf · 15 March 2008, 20:49

there should be some sort of part number on it somewhere but there is absolutely nothing on it at all.

im sure it is a fine turbo just not what i was after so sold it on false pretenses.

paypal will possibly refund my money to me, but i just want to sort it with the seller first.

silent running · 15 March 2008, 21:23

I'm no expert, but did a bit of research on TD05s before settling on a TD05-16G (front entry converted) myself. IIRC, the full house 'proper' TD05-20Gs that you see from Andy F, Harvey etc. have the full size 20G housing characterised by that flatted off casting in the front, originally from a TD06 turbo. What yours is though is a smaller compressor housing, which I believe can be legitimately used for a 20G compressor wheel.

YOu can find lots of TD05-20G with that compressor housing all over the web if you look including JA Warehouse. It's just not the full-on TD05/06-20G hybrid that you were expecting.

mr.sheen · 15 March 2008, 22:14

im still not convinced. the turbo doesnt resemble any other td series turbo ive ever seen. even a td04 has writing, serial numbers and model numbers actually cast into the compressor housing but this has nothing on it at all.
i will be fitting this and i dont want to be taking it off again due to it not performing so we really want to know the truth

there should be a section on sn for name and shameing, that would make people think twice about what their selling

j16jrf · 15 March 2008, 22:20

i have pm'ed the seller several times with still no response and he has been online since my pm's have been sent.

think i have option but to report him to the admin on the site and to paypal to get my money back.

bigandymac · 15 March 2008, 22:58

sorry to hear bout u gettin stung jamie, hope u get it rectified asap

scoobyDAZZA · 15 March 2008, 23:57

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Originally Posted by j16jrf

i have pm'ed the seller several times with still no response and he has been online since my pm's have been sent.

think i have option but to report him to the admin on the site and to paypal to get my money back.

can't you get the phone number through check-out ?
he's obviously not replying cuz he know's he's been collared

shame you didn't ask the question before buying it

j16jrf · 16 March 2008, 00:36

i asked him LOTS of questions before buying it. sent him pm's for about a week regarding the turbo, if it was genuine etc.

he told me it had just had a turbo dynamics rebuild etc.

i just want him to pm me and give me my money back then i will be happy again.

wouldnt want to have to book a return flight to england to return the turbo in person

lol

j16jrf · 16 March 2008, 00:36

what is "checkout" and how would it give me his number?

smokingkills · 16 March 2008, 04:19

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Originally Posted by j16jrf

i have pm'ed the seller several times with still no response and he has been online since my pm's have been sent.

think i have option but to report him to the admin on the site and to paypal to get my money back.

Hi mate was it an ebay seller called clairetombling? If so have a look here: http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayIS...ab=AllFeedback

I hope I'm wrong for your sake but if it is you won't get more than a slanging match & it is a copy jawarehouse one. I had the pete.taylor ebay account banned & I'd love to meet him

You'll need to report to paypal asap so they can freeze funds before he has chance to withdraw.

All the best mate!

j16jrf · 16 March 2008, 08:50

no not off ebay was bought from a ASN member

51st state · 16 March 2008, 10:16

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Originally Posted by silent running

I'm no expert, but did a bit of research on TD05s before settling on a TD05-16G (front entry converted) myself. IIRC, the full house 'proper' TD05-20Gs that you see from Andy F, Harvey etc. have the full size 20G housing characterised by that flatted off casting in the front, originally from a TD06 turbo. What yours is though is a smaller compressor housing, which I believe can be legitimately used for a 20G compressor wheel.

YOu can find lots of TD05-20G with that compressor housing all over the web if you look including JA Warehouse. It's just not the full-on TD05/06-20G hybrid that you were expecting.

i think "silent" makes a very valid point about your turbo that you seem to have ignored,

he has explained why it looks different to the one you have!!
as much as i admire andy forests work , how would the JA WAREHOUSE still be in business if there products were no good

thats assuming this is a JA unit

i will be buying a big 16g cover off them shortly to fit a td05 evo III turbo i have bought

this turbo is replacing a VF22 , spares cannot be got for these turbos

**Butty** · 16 March 2008, 11:25

The JA items have been noted in the past for poor castings, balance and wheel to housing clearances.....
HOWEVER
If Turbo Dynamics have been involved with this rebuild then these problems should have been ironed out and the turbo with have no issues.

Ask the seller for the turbo dynamics reciept and build report and all should be fine.
It does beg the question though, why flog the unused turbo after all the expense of a decent rebuild?

Nick