bren@apex
01 May 2008, 20:19
GROUP BUY NOW CLOSED!
Outline
We have been selling the KSport big brake kits for an while now with great sucess. Theyre a very popular kit and sell well. We have a large batch on order that I can run a group buy on to get the product out into the market place so word can start to spread.
What do people think of KSport brakes? A couple of quotes:
I have the 356mm 8 pot fronts fitted to my STi8, cannot fault them.
Got the k sport kit a couple of months ago and cant recommend it enough. I have the 356mm 8 pots front and 356mm 6 pots rear. The peddle is great with modulation in and out, no on or off.Pissball to fit as well.
i fitted the k-sport calipers 3 months ago and have found them to be fantastic,there half the price of other kits and got deliverd 2 days later,fitted in about 1 hour,lots of feel,they look good.cant recomend them enough.
I have 17" oz superleggra 2 running 215/40/17 tyres,i measured before i bought them and i thought the 356mm disc would be too tight,the 330mm disc fits perfect behing the 17" wheels and i have had no clearance issues at all.ive had other scoobys that i had alcon big brake kit on,and on my 2nd scooby i had a tarox kit.
all i can say is the k-sport outshines them all,and it cost me half the money.
also the orange calipers look wicked.
Just fitted them to my RB320, i have had many sets of AP,s on many cars. But thought i would give these a try, so far so good they fit well and disc run out was 0.01mm on both sides , my last set of AP,s was 0.02. bedding in still at moment but initial feel is very good with excellent pedal feel.
Magazine feature highlighting benefit of KSport 356mm kit on S14 200SX
Right click and save as to download feature from Jap Performance magazine (http://ksport.co.uk/vids/Ksport-JP-July07.pdf)
Pics
8 pot front caliper
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0738sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0742sm.jpg
6 pot rear caliper
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0750sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0748sm.jpg
Complete kits
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0214sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0151sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/Ksport-BK1sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/Brake-kit-sm.jpg
6 pot 304mm kits
Complete kit (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0211sm.jpg)
6 pot front caliper (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0223sm.jpg)
Another shot of 6 pot front caliper (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0216sm.jpg)
Fitted pic
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_2480small.JPG
The kits
The KSport kits comprise:
2x KSport lightweight aluminium calipers
2x KSport rotors
2x KSport bells
2x KSport brackets
2x KSport braided brake lines
Set of brake pads
KSport mounting kit
Fitting guide
Our website is here:
KSport website (www.ksport.co.uk)
Details of performance
The kits feature heavy duty grooved race rotors. We have found over our years of testing that rotor choice is critical. It took us many months of on track testing and working with KSport to come up with kits that we were happy with.
We introduced many tweaks to the calipers, rotors and even bell design. We (as in Apex) have spent in excess of £10,000 testing the brakes in our 592bhp Nissan Skyline in conjunction with Apex's professional driver, Tim Marshall. This is just the money spent testing with one of our vehicles, collectively we use 10+ cars to gather data and exprience from.
The kits are very much tried, tested and proven and after selling hundreds of kits we have only ever had one reported customer rotor failure on an early kit fitted to a heavy, powerful car with virtually no bedding in and then run on one of the fastest and harshest braking circuits in the UK. The rotors have been altered since then to improve reliability even further.
We have never had a reported leaking caliper, no failed seals, zero issues with pistons sticking etc. To date they are proven to be a true fit and forget product :)
What vehicles have we been testing on?
Unlike other sellers we believe in running and extensively testing what we sell, not on the road but on track for maximum stress and strain. We work closely with a number of cars monitoring performance, usage etc and gathering feedback. To this end we have collectively done 70+ track days at just about every track in the UK along with multiple European venues including Sweden, Germany and Belgium.
Apex Test S14a - 356mm front kit
Team Apex S13 #1 - 390+bhp, competition winning, 330mm front kit
Team Apex S13 #2 - 280bhp, 330mm front kit
Team Apex EDC and track Skyline - 592bhp, professional driver, 330mm front then 356mm front then 356mm all round
Team Apex Subaru Impreza Type RA - 330bhp, 330mm front kit
Richard Henry Motorsport Impreza #1 - 330bhp, 330mm front kit
Richard Henry Motorsport Impreza #2 - 330bhp, 356mm front kit
H-Dev S13 - 500bhp, 2006 Time Attack winning car, 330mm front kit
Team DCMS S14 - 440bhp, 330mm front kit
KSport 330mm front vs Brembo Skyline set up
Back to back testing has highlighted that the KSport 330mm kit provides superior feel and stopping power to the Skyline GTR Brembo front set up, very similar to the Impreza Brembo set up. DCMS have two S14s, one a road car, the other a track car. The track car came fitted with Brembo front brakes whilst the road car runs KSport 330mm set up. Both car run a Z32 rear brake set up. After back to back testing DCMS came to the conclusion that the KSport front kit was superior in performance to the Brembo so the kits were swapped with the track car being giving maximum performance with the KSport kit.
What discounts are being offered?
The following prices include the discount and includes KSport street pads. Pad upgrade options will follow.
The kits will all come with BLACK calipers with the latest design logo! Unless, that is, you want a rear kit to match an existing front set up in which case the appropriate caliper will be provided. Unfortunately we are unable ot offer the custom caliper colours as wed hoped at this time, we are doing some more durability testing on the new finishes before releasing them.
Fitting info
356mm rotor with bell and fixings 8.8kg
330mm rotor with bell and fixings 7.6kg
Front 8 pot caliper 2.8kg
Rear 6 pot caliper 2.4kg
Total 356mm diameter needed inside wheel 400mm
Total 330mm diameter needed inside wheel 375mm
Measurement out from hub face to outside edge of caliper 32mm
Retail price, prices INCLUDE vat! If you are within a country that doesnt pay EU vat then we will of course knock the vat off, around 15%.
Front:
304mm 6 pot £825
330mm 8 pot £855
356mm 8 pot £999
Rear:
330mm 6 pot £855
356mm 6 pot £999
If we get 5+ people then the following prices will be offered:
Front:
304mm 6 pot £660
330mm 8 pot £684
356mm 8 pot £799
Rear:
330mm 6 pot £684
356mm 6 pot £799
Pad upgrades
If you want to do more than sprited back road driving then we can offer the following brake pad upgrades. The price is what needs adding to the kit price to change from the default KSport Street front pads to the required pads:
Front 8 pot pads
KSport Sport +£34
KSport Race +£70
Ferodo DS2500 +£70
Ferodo DS3000 +£100
Rear 6 pot pads
KSport Sport +£29
KSport Race +£49
Ferodo DS2500 +£49
Ferodo DS3000 +£65
When are the kits due?
The kits have been ordered, manufactured and shipped. The boat is due late May.
International shipping costs.
The below prices are through our usual courier. We maybe able to get a better price on large orders by negotiating with our various freight companies but you certainly wont pay more than the prices listed below.
Zone 1:
Belgium, Ireland (Southern), Luxembourg, Netherlands
1 kit £53
2 kits £85
5 kits £165
10 kits £275
20 kits £560
Zone 2:
Andorra, Austria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungaru, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Monaco, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Solvenia, Spain, Sweden
1 kit £60
2 kits £95
5 kits £190
10 kits £360
20 kits £670
Zone 3:
Rest of Europe
1 kit £75
2 kits £120
5 kits £250
10 kits £455
20 kits £875
Sorting payment
Full payment is due before 23rd May. The quantity of kits is limited to an extent so its first come first served.
Payments are used to help pay for the shipment hence the discount. Please ensure that funds are available for your order as payment will be taken at anytime and we will NOT contact anyone before doing this unless you have requested it.
Please do NOT just stick your name on this thread, that will NOT be counted a an order. Orders are only confirmed when you have phoned with payment details. Please do not pm me with orders, they need to be placed over the phone, through our website, through Paypal or via bank transfer.
Good will ONLY be sent to the address that the card is registsered to. Theres no point arguing or pleading with my staff in an attempt to get the goods delivered to an alternate adress, fraudulent orders with stolen cards had led to a strict company policy of goods only going to the registered address. A pain for some, I know, thank the thieving scum of this world for forcing us into this position :(
If you want the goods sending to an alternate address then you can pay by bank transfer.
Phone - You can phone your order through to 01274 683633. International customers shouldnt be concerned about speaking to us, all the staff at Apex are more than used to dealing with international customers as a large percentage of our customer base is located throughout Europe.
Website - You can use this blank order form (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=120_451_121_182_188&products_id=791) on our website, just bear in mind that it will only accept credit card details at this point, not debit. Just put the details of the required kit and vehicle specifics in the comments box. We will manually process the order in the office. We need the following info in the comments box:
Car model (e.g Impreza)
Car version (e.g. Sti, WRX) This is important, the later Stis run a different rear kit to the WRX and earlier cars.
Car year
PCD if known (5x100 for majority, 5x114.3 for STi 05 onwards)
Details of product being ordered
Paypal - You need to add a 4% Paypal surcharge to the total (goods plus carriage) to cover Paypals processing costs. Just multiply the total by 1.04. Our Paypal address is payATapexperformance.co.uk and we will need the following information including in the Paypal payment to complete the order:
Full name
Full address
Daytime contact telephone number
Email address
Scoobynet username
Car model (e.g Impreza)
Car version (e.g. Sti, WRX) This is important, the later Stis run a different rear kit to the WRX and earlier cars.
Car year
PCD if known (5x100 for majority, 5x114.3 for STi 05 onwards)
Details of product being ordered
Bank transfer
Please pm me if you want to pay by bank transfer for further info and to arrange.
1: Deani_age
2: Deani_age
3: daz187
4: daz187
5: the-msp
6: the-msp
7: rooferman
8: chris-boris
9: mattdoyle
10: moviestar
11: STiFreak
12: STiFreak
13: Henrik
14: 170byb
15: Dannyboy007
16: BoostHapyGal
17: Mr Badger
18: Neanderthal
19: Jempo
20: Jempo
21: Madass
22: Flaps
Outline
We have been selling the KSport big brake kits for an while now with great sucess. Theyre a very popular kit and sell well. We have a large batch on order that I can run a group buy on to get the product out into the market place so word can start to spread.
What do people think of KSport brakes? A couple of quotes:
I have the 356mm 8 pot fronts fitted to my STi8, cannot fault them.
Got the k sport kit a couple of months ago and cant recommend it enough. I have the 356mm 8 pots front and 356mm 6 pots rear. The peddle is great with modulation in and out, no on or off.Pissball to fit as well.
i fitted the k-sport calipers 3 months ago and have found them to be fantastic,there half the price of other kits and got deliverd 2 days later,fitted in about 1 hour,lots of feel,they look good.cant recomend them enough.
I have 17" oz superleggra 2 running 215/40/17 tyres,i measured before i bought them and i thought the 356mm disc would be too tight,the 330mm disc fits perfect behing the 17" wheels and i have had no clearance issues at all.ive had other scoobys that i had alcon big brake kit on,and on my 2nd scooby i had a tarox kit.
all i can say is the k-sport outshines them all,and it cost me half the money.
also the orange calipers look wicked.
Just fitted them to my RB320, i have had many sets of AP,s on many cars. But thought i would give these a try, so far so good they fit well and disc run out was 0.01mm on both sides , my last set of AP,s was 0.02. bedding in still at moment but initial feel is very good with excellent pedal feel.
Magazine feature highlighting benefit of KSport 356mm kit on S14 200SX
Right click and save as to download feature from Jap Performance magazine (http://ksport.co.uk/vids/Ksport-JP-July07.pdf)
Pics
8 pot front caliper
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0738sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0742sm.jpg
6 pot rear caliper
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0750sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0748sm.jpg
Complete kits
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0214sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0151sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/Ksport-BK1sm.jpg
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/Brake-kit-sm.jpg
6 pot 304mm kits
Complete kit (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0211sm.jpg)
6 pot front caliper (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0223sm.jpg)
Another shot of 6 pot front caliper (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_0216sm.jpg)
Fitted pic
http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/images/IMG_2480small.JPG
The kits
The KSport kits comprise:
2x KSport lightweight aluminium calipers
2x KSport rotors
2x KSport bells
2x KSport brackets
2x KSport braided brake lines
Set of brake pads
KSport mounting kit
Fitting guide
Our website is here:
KSport website (www.ksport.co.uk)
Details of performance
The kits feature heavy duty grooved race rotors. We have found over our years of testing that rotor choice is critical. It took us many months of on track testing and working with KSport to come up with kits that we were happy with.
We introduced many tweaks to the calipers, rotors and even bell design. We (as in Apex) have spent in excess of £10,000 testing the brakes in our 592bhp Nissan Skyline in conjunction with Apex's professional driver, Tim Marshall. This is just the money spent testing with one of our vehicles, collectively we use 10+ cars to gather data and exprience from.
The kits are very much tried, tested and proven and after selling hundreds of kits we have only ever had one reported customer rotor failure on an early kit fitted to a heavy, powerful car with virtually no bedding in and then run on one of the fastest and harshest braking circuits in the UK. The rotors have been altered since then to improve reliability even further.
We have never had a reported leaking caliper, no failed seals, zero issues with pistons sticking etc. To date they are proven to be a true fit and forget product :)
What vehicles have we been testing on?
Unlike other sellers we believe in running and extensively testing what we sell, not on the road but on track for maximum stress and strain. We work closely with a number of cars monitoring performance, usage etc and gathering feedback. To this end we have collectively done 70+ track days at just about every track in the UK along with multiple European venues including Sweden, Germany and Belgium.
Apex Test S14a - 356mm front kit
Team Apex S13 #1 - 390+bhp, competition winning, 330mm front kit
Team Apex S13 #2 - 280bhp, 330mm front kit
Team Apex EDC and track Skyline - 592bhp, professional driver, 330mm front then 356mm front then 356mm all round
Team Apex Subaru Impreza Type RA - 330bhp, 330mm front kit
Richard Henry Motorsport Impreza #1 - 330bhp, 330mm front kit
Richard Henry Motorsport Impreza #2 - 330bhp, 356mm front kit
H-Dev S13 - 500bhp, 2006 Time Attack winning car, 330mm front kit
Team DCMS S14 - 440bhp, 330mm front kit
KSport 330mm front vs Brembo Skyline set up
Back to back testing has highlighted that the KSport 330mm kit provides superior feel and stopping power to the Skyline GTR Brembo front set up, very similar to the Impreza Brembo set up. DCMS have two S14s, one a road car, the other a track car. The track car came fitted with Brembo front brakes whilst the road car runs KSport 330mm set up. Both car run a Z32 rear brake set up. After back to back testing DCMS came to the conclusion that the KSport front kit was superior in performance to the Brembo so the kits were swapped with the track car being giving maximum performance with the KSport kit.
What discounts are being offered?
The following prices include the discount and includes KSport street pads. Pad upgrade options will follow.
The kits will all come with BLACK calipers with the latest design logo! Unless, that is, you want a rear kit to match an existing front set up in which case the appropriate caliper will be provided. Unfortunately we are unable ot offer the custom caliper colours as wed hoped at this time, we are doing some more durability testing on the new finishes before releasing them.
Fitting info
356mm rotor with bell and fixings 8.8kg
330mm rotor with bell and fixings 7.6kg
Front 8 pot caliper 2.8kg
Rear 6 pot caliper 2.4kg
Total 356mm diameter needed inside wheel 400mm
Total 330mm diameter needed inside wheel 375mm
Measurement out from hub face to outside edge of caliper 32mm
Retail price, prices INCLUDE vat! If you are within a country that doesnt pay EU vat then we will of course knock the vat off, around 15%.
Front:
304mm 6 pot £825
330mm 8 pot £855
356mm 8 pot £999
Rear:
330mm 6 pot £855
356mm 6 pot £999
If we get 5+ people then the following prices will be offered:
Front:
304mm 6 pot £660
330mm 8 pot £684
356mm 8 pot £799
Rear:
330mm 6 pot £684
356mm 6 pot £799
Pad upgrades
If you want to do more than sprited back road driving then we can offer the following brake pad upgrades. The price is what needs adding to the kit price to change from the default KSport Street front pads to the required pads:
Front 8 pot pads
KSport Sport +£34
KSport Race +£70
Ferodo DS2500 +£70
Ferodo DS3000 +£100
Rear 6 pot pads
KSport Sport +£29
KSport Race +£49
Ferodo DS2500 +£49
Ferodo DS3000 +£65
When are the kits due?
The kits have been ordered, manufactured and shipped. The boat is due late May.
International shipping costs.
The below prices are through our usual courier. We maybe able to get a better price on large orders by negotiating with our various freight companies but you certainly wont pay more than the prices listed below.
Zone 1:
Belgium, Ireland (Southern), Luxembourg, Netherlands
1 kit £53
2 kits £85
5 kits £165
10 kits £275
20 kits £560
Zone 2:
Andorra, Austria, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungaru, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Monaco, Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Solvenia, Spain, Sweden
1 kit £60
2 kits £95
5 kits £190
10 kits £360
20 kits £670
Zone 3:
Rest of Europe
1 kit £75
2 kits £120
5 kits £250
10 kits £455
20 kits £875
Sorting payment
Full payment is due before 23rd May. The quantity of kits is limited to an extent so its first come first served.
Payments are used to help pay for the shipment hence the discount. Please ensure that funds are available for your order as payment will be taken at anytime and we will NOT contact anyone before doing this unless you have requested it.
Please do NOT just stick your name on this thread, that will NOT be counted a an order. Orders are only confirmed when you have phoned with payment details. Please do not pm me with orders, they need to be placed over the phone, through our website, through Paypal or via bank transfer.
Good will ONLY be sent to the address that the card is registsered to. Theres no point arguing or pleading with my staff in an attempt to get the goods delivered to an alternate adress, fraudulent orders with stolen cards had led to a strict company policy of goods only going to the registered address. A pain for some, I know, thank the thieving scum of this world for forcing us into this position :(
If you want the goods sending to an alternate address then you can pay by bank transfer.
Phone - You can phone your order through to 01274 683633. International customers shouldnt be concerned about speaking to us, all the staff at Apex are more than used to dealing with international customers as a large percentage of our customer base is located throughout Europe.
Website - You can use this blank order form (http://www.apexperformance.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=120_451_121_182_188&products_id=791) on our website, just bear in mind that it will only accept credit card details at this point, not debit. Just put the details of the required kit and vehicle specifics in the comments box. We will manually process the order in the office. We need the following info in the comments box:
Car model (e.g Impreza)
Car version (e.g. Sti, WRX) This is important, the later Stis run a different rear kit to the WRX and earlier cars.
Car year
PCD if known (5x100 for majority, 5x114.3 for STi 05 onwards)
Details of product being ordered
Paypal - You need to add a 4% Paypal surcharge to the total (goods plus carriage) to cover Paypals processing costs. Just multiply the total by 1.04. Our Paypal address is payATapexperformance.co.uk and we will need the following information including in the Paypal payment to complete the order:
Full name
Full address
Daytime contact telephone number
Email address
Scoobynet username
Car model (e.g Impreza)
Car version (e.g. Sti, WRX) This is important, the later Stis run a different rear kit to the WRX and earlier cars.
Car year
PCD if known (5x100 for majority, 5x114.3 for STi 05 onwards)
Details of product being ordered
Bank transfer
Please pm me if you want to pay by bank transfer for further info and to arrange.
1: Deani_age
2: Deani_age
3: daz187
4: daz187
5: the-msp
6: the-msp
7: rooferman
8: chris-boris
9: mattdoyle
10: moviestar
11: STiFreak
12: STiFreak
13: Henrik
14: 170byb
15: Dannyboy007
16: BoostHapyGal
17: Mr Badger
18: Neanderthal
19: Jempo
20: Jempo
21: Madass
22: Flaps