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We've got prototypes in the lab of realtime speech translation running on a VoToL ... it works better than I expected, actually, and is not bad for the domain of helping foreign tourists ask for directions and stuff....
Hehe, sorry to burst your bubble Darren. Keep the ideas flowing!
Thug: thanks for that bit of information -- I was wondering where the heck the text messaging app was anyway. That's actually a good thing -- to demo the concept we could write a small text messaging app with the necessary hooks and hope it'll be interesting enough to get integrated into the real app. Hmmm...
I was thinking another option would be to process all txt messages as the come in and tag SPAM messages by putting something in the header. It looked to me like there was the capability to add custom data to the SMS header.
Then if you installed NerdThug SPAM Killer (TM) you could use it with any compliant SMS app that respected the header.
(NerdThug SPAM Killer uses proprietary technology and Nerds armed with Bayesian Billy Clubs, trained by Thugs, to quicky and accurately put SPAM in it's place.)
BTW, any idea how well a Bayesian SPAM filter might work on SMS? I did some quick reading on Bayesian filters and it seems to me that the characteristics of SPAM vs Legit SMS is probably not as pronounced as in email given how short and informal SMS messages are.
Interesting idea. Well, SMS costs the *sender* a few cents for each one, enforced by the carrier, so there isn't actually that much SMS spam (have you ever received any?)...
On the other hand, it's arguable that old-school telecom darlings SMS and MMS will go the way of the dodo, and we'll be eventually left with internet-standard email, like they use in Japan. The Japanese carriers really haven't figured out how to solve that problem either -- they keep playing this arms race with the spammers.
There's a big difference with mobile email vs PC email though, in that mobile is more suited to whitelisting. As a secondary email account, someone who is not in your whitelist can simply contact you on your PC account, so people are less resistant to that. At the same time, the annoyance level of spam is way higher on the in a mobile context. I'd say maybe about 30% of Japanese users are using whitelisting, although the number is probably artificially low because most people don't have a PC email account.
Too bad, NerdThug.com is already registered. To William Brown of MyThug, Inc. in California, no less.
Joe, what about encrypted real-time data and voice? There are a lot of people who would pay dearly to know their communications over public systems are safe and secure. You'd have to give the government a key (maybe ) or you'll end up like the guy who came up with PGP.
With the increasing popularity of Bluetooth and Hotspots; do as Darren suggests and create ad-hoc mesh networks to connect to "free/er" access points.
Install haptics on the phone so you really can "reach out and touch someone"... 50c/min, local charges apply
Yeah, the only SMS "SPAM" I got was from my carrier. Stef on the other hand once managed to get herself signed up for one of those sketchy SMS SPAM companies that charge you for their "content".
Encryption: you mean like Skype encryption? I dunno if it's end-to-end, but I remember seeing some stories about how it was "too" secure for certain governments. The problem is that most security entails a certain amount of obscurity -- if you get really successful and everybody starts using your system, lots of people are going to find legal excuses to get you to cough up the keys. Unless there's a way around that?
Ad-hoc networking is a really clever idea -- you could work around the carriers this way, and at least it would grease the wheels of getiting them to start offering reasonable data rates. But consider the problems of other mesh networks like Gnutella and Tor -- is there any way to solve the latency and reliability issues, or at least work around them?
Haptics. You mean teledildonics or something along the lines? I don't doubt that's where the real money to be made is. Know any contacts?
SMS spam ... yeah, she probably got sucked into sms.ac or something right? You can get the carrier to simply shut them off on the server side ...
What will make out calendar app special? Pretty much every phone already has the capability to sync with the Outlook calendar, though the capability is probably very underused. Any idea why and what we could do about it?
View your buddies calendar. Lesse, is anybody free for BBT on friday night? I'll just look it up on my phone!!! Then when you sms them, it would automatically add a tentative "meeting request" on your calendar (of course, with you saying yes, would confirm it back).
I'm not sure how much sense this makes but one of my thoughts was: We start by building a DB application development platform. Basically, once it's done, you just define the table structure and the screens for entering data into the tables and how lists of items should be displayed. Of course we allow you to add custom logic as well, if you need to, and maybe provide an easy way to access the phone's functionality. Once we have the platform we can easily implement things like contact list, SMS application, Calendar. Because it's all stored in one database we can do what google is so good at doing... SEARCH!
Plus because of the flexability of the platform it's easy to customize things, such as add a new field to the contact list. You could also potential do things like query how many times you call someone in a certian time period, or how long your average call length with them is.
Another thing I was thinking is some sort of facebook integration/sync. I haven't looked into it, but according to ashok they've got some APIs? I know young people seem to love checking those kinds of sites to see what their friends are up to. Imagine if they could check and post comments using their phone while riding the bus. Maybe integrate their facebook friends right into their contact lists.
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I was thinking 'bout SMS'ing events and evites that get added to the recipient's calendar, kind of what Petter posted.
I think the next big money maker will probably some sort of social networking thingey. Friendsters was ahead of its time. Facebook took it to the next level and look where it went.
As a parnet, I was thinking of a applet that I could use to find my daughter. I could send an SMS message to her which when she gets it, I know where she is before she even has to reply! Possible? Parnet's reach getting too big?
LaterZ!
Darren!!
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Oh, a couple of my other ideas was a "yellow pages" app which is location based. I.e. Find out where the nearest liquor store is. Or set up alerts when you come within x meters of a liquor store because you know sooner or later you're going to drive past one on the way to your friend's party. (The android API has a lot of support for getting location fixes though I guess time will tell how many phones will include GPS.)
A small idea was some sort of "shared list". For example, your spouse could add something to your shopping list.
Oh, and I notice none of us have mentioned gaming yet. Based on the discussion I had to endure overhearing waiting in line to buy my lunch the other day, there's a market of people who spend all their free time talking about how paladins aren't very effective at healing during a battle unless someone has a hammer of god... Maybe we could get them to start gaming on their phones while waiting in line so I don't have to listen to them talk.
BTW, a lot of my SMS SPAM came thru e-mail to SMS gateways
Speaking of which, quite a while ago Rogers changed from sending messages received by the email to SMS gateway to your phone, to sending you a message to message them back to retrieve your email. It really makes the feature a blatant cash grab. Then again, I guess otherwise it's too easy to abuse.
Encryption: you mean like Skype encryption? I dunno if it's end-to-end, but I remember seeing some stories about how it was "too" secure for certain governments. The problem is that most security entails a certain amount of obscurity -- if you get really successful and everybody starts using your system, lots of people are going to find legal excuses to get you to cough up the keys. Unless there's a way around that?
Ad-hoc networking is a really clever idea -- you could work around the carriers this way, and at least it would grease the wheels of getting them to start offering reasonable data rates. But consider the problems of other mesh networks like Gnutella and Tor -- is there any way to solve the latency and reliability issues, or at least work around them?
Haptics. You mean teledildonics or something along the lines? I don't doubt that's where the real money to be made is. Know any contacts?
Keys - don't keep any. The users setup their own like PGP. Back door optional.
Mesh - While this seems like a great "for the people" idea, what phone company would ever promote you not paying them? I just read more spectrum in Canada is going on the block. Maybe our prices will be more in-line with those in other developed countries.. auction
Touchy-Feely - Funny enough, I do!
Say, one big problem we have in society is talking on the phone while driving. If you could navigate by "feel", you would be less likely to make mistakes while driving. Maybe something like a stick shift feel for menu navigation, textured message selection, etc. As well as computer voice for text messages?
I don't know the costs, but you can call Shahbaz at (604) 420-3507 (let me know if that isn't the right number, it may have changed). It's out here in Burnaby (just north of the Costco on Lougheed). He does small to medium sized runs for companies looking to prototype, etc... If he doesn't, he may direct you to someone who will. Tell him I say hi
Your clothes were on the metal shelf, in the laundry bin, in the bathroom, and kind of everywhere else. I took as many as I could find and stuck em in the suitcase, but not everything fit, so there's an extra baggie i think on the side...
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I'll grap everything that Joe labeled as yours and will try to stuff it all into the suite case. I promise I won't tell people what colour your underwear is.
I'll go and grap your stuff and check on Joe's apt/car at the same time tomorrow.
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So today we went to Costco and I grapped new wiper blades for my car. I grapped those fancy Micheline one-piece blades. This time around, they didn't have the passenger side length! I needed an 18", and all they had were 16's, 17's, 19's, 20's, 22's and 24's!!!
I ended up grapping a 24" for the driver's side, and a 19" for the passenger. 1/2" at either end too long, but it still fits okay. They work really well! Kept the snow off the windshield nicely. Helps that there are defroster wires right underneath them too. Gotta love Subaru for those nifty little design thoughts.
Petter, those Yoko snows are really good! My car felt really confident driving around. Even Reen and my bro-inlaw Tony mentioned it. When I got on the gas, I can make the tail step out.
The LGT drives really well in the snow. I guess the extra heft of the car makes it feel more stable than the RS.
The ABS nearly did me in a couple times, plus I was stopped to turn left when an element passed me on my left, in the oncomming lane. I think he had the same problem as me approaching that downhill intersection. I would have blown the light (even though I was going nice and slow) because of the ABS kicking in. The only reason I managed to stop was because I ended up yanking the e-brake.
Keep the ideas flowing!
) or you'll end up like the guy who came up with PGP.
I'll just look it up on my phone!!! Then when you sms them, it would automatically add a tentative "meeting request" on your calendar (of course, with you saying yes, would confirm it back).
Possible? Parnet's reach getting too big?
