Anyone sick of the 'green'/Global warming stuff yet?

[Martin2005]

Originally Posted by hutton_d Ah yes, old Hansen. Go read The Reference Frame: James Hansen: 20 years later Interesting graph at Picasa Web Albums - lumo - The Reference... Dave It's intriguing to me that Hansen heads up Climate Research at the GISS, the very source you used earlier. As always this subject is nebulous and almost impossible to be convinced on either way.

[PeteBrant]

Now that Dave has established that NASA is an incontravertible source of information, it looks like man made global wamring is confirmed

NASA GISS: NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies

Its like a page from greenpeace

[Klaatu]

If the Earth is "warming so rapidly", where is all the heat? Decadel temperature trends are flat, or slightly negative, since 1998.

If you look at the current science in solar activity and temperatures you'll see we're in for a long bit of a cool spell something a bit longer that the 1940 - 1975-ish period. And no, AGW released CO2 isn't "masking" a thing.

[hutton_d]

Originally Posted by Martin2005

It's intriguing to me that Hansen heads up Climate Research at the GISS, the very source you used earlier.

As always this subject is nebulous and almost impossible to be convinced on either way.

Ummm. If you read the bit about there being no way to determine an *average* temperature around the globe then then there is no convincing to do!

Also, when Hansen made his original speech it happened to be in the 90's in Washington and someone had turned off the air con (allegedly) but Hansen said it was *unable to cope* .... (go google for it - can't be arsed to find the accusation again).

Dave

[Martin2005]

Originally Posted by hutton_d

Ummm. If you read the bit about there being no way to determine an *average* temperature around the globe then then there is no convincing to do!

Also, when Hansen made his original speech it happened to be in the 90's in Washington and someone had turned off the air con (allegedly) but Hansen said it was *unable to cope* .... (go google for it - can't be arsed to find the accusation again).

Dave

Dave

I wasn't having a go at you, why are you always so rude and defensive?

[hutton_d]

Originally Posted by Martin2005

Dave

I wasn't having a go at you, why are you always so rude and defensive?

Didn't think I was. Just that email/forums are so impersonal. Plus I never write 3 words when one will do .....

Dave