spectrum48k

No the title wasn't a euphemism!

We have an existing hedge, approx 6ft tall, running up the side of our house, which sheds from autumn to late spring. The trouble is, the living room looks out onto this hedge and its very bare when it has no leaves, so its not very private.

My first thought was to replace the hedge with a fence, but then I wondered if it was possible to thicken the hedge somehow?

For example could we add ivy into the mix, allow it to grow into the hedge in the hope any gaps will be filled ?

Any advice would be appreciated.

oldsplice

Any idea what kind of hedge it is? You can usually take them down by about a third, and that will encourage them to sprout from the bottom. Also, do it before or after nesting season.

spectrum48k

not sure why kind of hedge it is - will find out.

"take them down by a third" do you mean trim the sides by a third?

oldsplice

From the top

Trim the sides a bit as well.

RON

Try planting something in it thats evergreen.... that way it'll always be in leaf!

dicky ticker

i was told by my farmer neighbour not to cut it square / box shape. if the top is narrower than the bottom then the hedge will fill out thicker and the bottom will not go leggy. regular trimming will also help to thicken your bush

you colud alsp try laying the hedge but at 6ft this may be difficult Hedge Laying

if you are going to add something like an evergreen creeper be careful as this may strangle the life out of your hedge

dpb

Leylandii

SVXNUT

Don't plant an ivy, withn 15 years the hedge will be dead or very poorly, as it sounds like you have a hawthorn, or something similar, underplant with holly, it will cope with the shade nicely and will grow through it slowly. Evergreen so will close the gaps, will take about 6-8 years to get up 6ft though.
P.S. make sure that you water the holly for the first 2-3 years in the summer, as the mature hedge will suck up all the water from its immature roots.

Janspeed

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"Trim my Hedge"

spectrum48k

great comments lads - thanks

so holly could be the answer ? I'll look into it. What distance apart should they be planted ?

any other evergreens which will give a good thick hedge ?

spectrum48k

think I remember this done on Hugh F-W's place on River Cottage ?

oldsplice

Yew is good.........holly is a barsteward when you want to trim it (we've got some holly in ours, and it's very prickly!! )

Got any pics?

spectrum48k

good idea - I'll post some pics up tomorrow

David Lock

Privet being the classic hedge material, bit boring though. Beech is OK as even though deciduous the leaves seem to stay on, slow growing. Or Laurel or just conifers. I think you will need something that won't mind growing up in an existing hedge but a decent garden centre should know. I don't think Ivy would do what you want.

Or buy some thicker curtains

oldsplice

I agree with the ivy thing.........it's a pain, throwing runners out everywhere and choking everything. I had a laurel years ago in another house, and the leaves are so big, they don't rot down very well, also, if you trim them with hedge trimmers they tend to leave half leaves and then it looks scruffy (does that make sense? Too many leaf/leave/leaves in that sentence! )

SVXNUT

In relation to above. Privet will not survive in heavy shade, so growing through the hedge is not going to happen unless one side is south facing.
Yew is excellent, if you are willing to wait 15 years+ for it to even reach the top of the hedge, never mind thicken it up. (see the millenium maze 8 years on and its about 4 ft tall and thats unobstucted growth!!!.)
Laurel as oldsplice pointed out cannot be cut tidyly with clippers, it a secateur job, used to take me 3 days to cut a 6ft laurel hedge 50ft long, and that was 3 times a year!!.
If you want to keep the neighbours out another alternative is berberis, not even a cat will try to get through that is so spiky!!!.

SVXNUT

Whoops planting distances for through planting are about every 18inches if the plantings are about 12 inches tall.

TopBanana

What sort of soil do you have? Is the site shady or in full sun? Do you want to hedge to be a feature (maybe with variegated leaves), or will you be planting up in front of it?

53

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Don't use holly, planted near buildings it can be a subsidence issue. Massive headache for Church maintenance is root damage from holly.

bioforger

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PHNARR!

SVXNUT

If on heavy clay, and you allow it to become a tree. In all the training I had at college, I have never heard of a hedge causing subsidence, as any plant in general will not grow roots much bigger than the canopys spread, so that it catches the run off.

nooobyscoooby

Rip it out and start again with beech. The leaves die but stay on so you still get cover.

You'll need to dig in plenty of good quality mulch to refresh the soil and make sure you water id regulalry through the first summer.

Go to:

ReadyHedge : Hedging UK : Ready Spaced, Ready To Plant, Ready When You Are

You get get instant hedging up to 6 feet high. It'd dead easy.

For something different there's an evergreen called Photinia Red Robin that is green but new leaves are red and this is really attractive too.

Don't plant leylandii!!

oldsplice

I agree with the beech suggestion. Copper leaves in winter, green in summer.

Hedging Plant Pictures: Purple Beech, Green Beech, Purple Berberis

andy97

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