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Oops, lack of judgement there I think, I can see what the teacher was trying to do but the kids were perhaps a bit too young for that. When I was little and was bad, my parents would threaten to send me to boarding school and I really totally and utterly believed that they would. It really used to upset me
I don't bother with the boarding school threat - I just tell them I will put them up for adoption!
Yup, we have convinced our two that a local health centre is actually the childrens home,we pass it on the way shopping and occasionally comment on it if they are being a pain
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Yup, we have convinced our two that a local helath centre is actually the childrens home,we pass it on the way shopping and occasionally comment on it if they are being a pain
EVIL!
The thing is.... i can't help but laugh at it!!
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Typical Daily Mail overblown non-story IMO
Reads to me like a typical overprotective parent trying to get her name into the papers
The kids were 11 years old, which IMO is plenty old enough to have the reasoning behind something like that explained to them after the event.
If it gives just one of them a better understanding of what went on, not just during WW2, but more recently in Rwanda, or during the disintegration of Yugoslavia, it was an exercise worth doing
I have to say that was really going too far. Children are certainly likely to believe exactly what they are told in such circumstances by their teacher and it must have been pretty alarming for them.
It would have been quite sufficient to tell the children to imagine how it would be if that did actually happen to them and ask them how they would feel if they really were not going to see their parents again.
Frightening them like that was a stupid thing to do and will doubtless kill any trust they might have had for the deputy head teacher.
We used to live near a borstal so that was the threat my parents used. It was made worse by the fact that one of my mate's Dad's worked there and he'd tell us horror stories of what it was like.
I doubt any of the kids will be harmed for life by this daft stunt, though.
I agree Les, those children will no doubt be waiting for the next 'game' to be sprung on them!
It not about age, think of it as something you would actually beleive.... A situation that could be mocked up, a robbery or any such thing that could upset an adult in a simar way. If nobody told you it was pretend, you be a bit miffed.
The bonus fot an adult us that we could probably look back and laugh, or at least understand the situation.
A child cannot really cope as well as an adult.
Last edited by Hysteria1983; 11 March 2010 at 12:46.
When I was little and was bad, my parents would threaten to send me to boarding school and I really totally and utterly believed that they would. It really used to upset me
No wonder I'm damaged
Mine too, I'd ask them to go through with it though so I could get away from them, problem was they wouldn't have been able to afford the fees
I'll remember to use it though if, god forbid, I ever procreate
Yup, we have convinced our two that a local health centre is actually the childrens home,we pass it on the way shopping and occasionally comment on it if they are being a pain
I've used that one a few times
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The irony here is the number of Daily Fail parents who:
a) will send their children to boarding school at that age
b) already send their children to boarding school
c) wish they had enough money to send their children to boarding school.
The irony here is the number of Daily Fail parents who:
a) will send their children to boarding school at that age
b) already send their children to boarding school
c) wish they had enough money to send their children to boarding school.
I declined and my position and opinion on the method used to extract emotive story writing from the children was cruel, barbaric, traumatic and totally, totally unethical.
Come on .. it made them cry ... their kids .. they have it far too easy as did I and this is an excellent (although not well thought out) way to let them see how bad it actually was for some children.
Come on .. it made them cry ... their kids .. they have it far too easy as did I and this is an excellent (although not well thought out) way to let them see how bad it actually was for some children.
To see how bad it actually was?
Come on WWII wasn't just a bad day at school, neither was being taken away from your parents never to see them again.
I agree it could have been a good excersise had it been better thought out.
Come on .. it made them cry ... their kids .. they have it far too easy as did I and this is an excellent (although not well thought out) way to let them see how bad it actually was for some children.
It was an unecessary and immature way of trying to get the message across.
Pimmo with all the advice we have all gratefully offered and you seemed to need I think that is a bit of a stupid thing to say.
I don't see the connection between needing help with a crying baby and thinking that the reaction to this is ridiculous.
The school has made a mistake, I don't argue that, but the way its been reported is massively exaggerated.
To be honest, using my request for help with a new born as a way to insult me or put me down is very disappointing. I am forever grateful for the advice given to me on this forum and from you, but I am entitled to my opinion.
I wont turn to you again for help for the risk of it being thrown back in my face.
We all agree it wasn't done correctly, but the way its being reported is pathetic ..
Teach makes silly mistake, World ends, kid emotionally scarred for life !
If that emotionally scars your child you've not done a very good job
bringing them up!
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I don't see the connection between needing help with a crying baby and thinking that the reaction to this is ridiculous.
The school has made a mistake, I don't argue that, but the way its been reported is massively exaggerated.
To be honest, using my request for help with a new born as a way to insult me or put me down is very disappointing. I am forever grateful for the advice given to me on this forum and from you, but I am entitled to my opinion.
I wont turn to you again for help for the risk of it being thrown back in my face.
I'm actually hurt by your comments.
I think you will find that the insult came from you when you insinuated that a child getting upset at the thought of becoming an orphan/refugee was the result of pad parenting.
Hence my reaction. I was offended. And confused at your way of thinking.
That was why I brought up the fact you have asked a lot of help on here.
Now don't get me wrong, asking for help is part of being a good parent. But being a good parent will not necessarily result in a having a good/well behaved child.
Just the same as a tough upbringing will not make a tough child.
You will see one day how young children react to stimuli such as the events at the school, and then you will understand it DOES NOT simply boil down to parenting.
Last edited by Hysteria1983; 15 March 2010 at 15:32.
I think you will find that the insult came from you when you insinuated that a child getting upset at the thought of becoming an orphan/refugee was the result of pad parenting.
Hence my reaction. I was offended. And confused at your way of thinking.
That was why I brought up the fact you have asked a lot of help on here.
Now don't get me wrong, asking for help is part of being a good parent. But being a good parent will not necessarily result in a having a good/well behaved child.
Just the same as a tough upbringing will not make a tough child.
You will see one day how young children react to stimuli such as the events at the school, and then you will understand it DOES NOT simply boil down to parenting.
No insult was intended and I'm confident if it were your child they would not be emotionally scarred.
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I didn't say upset, I said scarred for life ! there is a difference, the children were meant to be upset, it was the point !
'One boy kicked his chair over, one was angry and demanded to speak to someone in charge but most were crying on a scale ranging from mildly to severely'.
Can just imagine an 11yr old demanding to speak to someone in charge
Sick school 'experiment?
