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Old 04 January 2016, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GWJ
Ah but it still gets cold, icy and slippery, which winter tyres are very good for as well.


Those cross climates look good, the recent all seasons tyres, Michelin, Nokian and Goodyear really have moved the goal posts. There is less of an argument for the summer/winter combo now
There is, its called fuel economy & wet braking!

Summer tyres are generally rated from A - C

A - being the most fuel eficient, C not efficient. F being very unneficient etc

If your unlucky and run some larger sizes or 4X4,

this can drop to E or even G

All season tyres if your lucky are from C- F!

but there is a trade off on wet grip, with E rating being quite common!

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Old 04 January 2016, 09:27 PM
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Default Michelin cross climates

Originally Posted by scunnered
What's your verdict of them so far?
I put a set on a week ago, and I was immediately impressed with them.
The grip and traction is incredible.
I'm afraid I only put about 1500 miles on them before trading the Forester in for Forester number 3, so it was goodbye to the Cross climates and hello to the scary Bridgestone Duellers.
The cross climates felt great in standing water but they never saw more than some frost and ice. The one real negative was a drone on smooth wet roads. Car was perfectly quiet otherwise but there seemed to be a lot more noise than the claimed decibels ! This was also moticed by Steve from SW motorsports, before I even mentioned noise.

The duellers on the new Forester coped perfectly well with the little snow they saw but I think it was more down to the x mode. Now changed for Nokian WRG3 SUVs which have been as good as I'd expect from Nokian.

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Old 04 January 2016, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
There is, its called fuel economy & wet braking!

Summer tyres are generally rated from A - C

A - being the most fuel eficient, C not efficient. F being very unneficient etc

If your unlucky and run some larger sizes or 4X4,

this can drop to E or even G

All season tyres if your lucky are from C- F!

but there is a trade off on wet grip, with E rating being quite common!

mart
I do the maths (litres filled up vs mileage driven) on every tank I fill up without fail. My current Vredstein summers are F rated for efficiency and my previous Bridgestones were C rated. I was doing 30k miles a year so as you can imagine, I have done plenty of fill ups (BMW 330d). There wasn't any notable difference in mpg at all which is also true of my E rated winters.
Old 04 January 2016, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mart360
There is, its called fuel economy & wet braking!

Summer tyres are generally rated from A - C

A - being the most fuel eficient, C not efficient. F being very unneficient etc

If your unlucky and run some larger sizes or 4X4,

this can drop to E or even G

All season tyres if your lucky are from C- F!

but there is a trade off on wet grip, with E rating being quite common!

mart
The new all season tyres from Michelin (Cross Climate) and Nokian (Weatherproof) have an A rating for wet grip, and C for economy.
Old 30 November 2016, 03:07 PM
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First morning with ice the Nokian WR D4's performed amazingly.
Old 30 November 2016, 10:56 PM
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I haven't fitted mine yet, but they will be going on soon
Old 09 December 2016, 08:24 AM
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I have Continental Wintercontact TS860 undwer my BMW. Excellent winter tyres apparently but all over the place when giving it some beans in the dry.

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Co...act-TS-860.htm
Old 09 December 2016, 10:22 AM
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New set of Pirelli Sottozeros for me this year! Best winter tyres I've had so far!
Old 09 December 2016, 10:58 AM
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I have last years Nokian WRs on mine, may stump up for a new set next year all depends on if I need to or not.
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
But what if it doesn't snow? Then surely you're driving an unsafe car?
Presumably this is how Pete met his fate
Old 09 December 2016, 09:53 PM
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Just bought a set of Falken Eurowinter hs 449 or something like that, seem pretty decent now I've scrubbed them in, off to read some reviews to see what other people make of them.
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