New Prius launched - Idiots please form queue
18 May 2009, 03:32 PM
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New Prius launched - Idiots please form queue
BBC NEWS | Business | Toyota unveils new Prius hybrid
50 mpg average.
Absolute crap! That's better than a normal car of the same size exactly how then?
How much do these sucker-mobiles cost anyway? £20K? More?
It's the Thrid generation of them now, they should be upto 70MPG at least but they are stuck at the same as the first one was
50 mpg average.
Absolute crap! That's better than a normal car of the same size exactly how then?
How much do these sucker-mobiles cost anyway? £20K? More?
It's the Thrid generation of them now, they should be upto 70MPG at least but they are stuck at the same as the first one was
18 May 2009, 03:58 PM
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Diesels have been doing 50MPG for ages. I have had 3 succesive brand new VW ones since 2002 (130bhp, 140bhp & 140bhp common rail). Most reasonable journeys gave 50 - 55 MPG in these big Passats, only dropping into the mid/high 40's for urban trips. Not slow and torquey as well.
The Prius is a joke aimed at the idiots you mention, who just swallow the PR guff without checking the alternatives.
A bit like those people who think that their expensive pixelated flat-screen tellies give a better picture than my old CRT one!
The Prius is a joke aimed at the idiots you mention, who just swallow the PR guff without checking the alternatives.
A bit like those people who think that their expensive pixelated flat-screen tellies give a better picture than my old CRT one!
18 May 2009, 04:28 PM
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In CO2 terms diesel is worse than petrol (2.7 kg / litre vs 2.4 kg / litre), so a diesel car actually has to be doing about 56 mpg in order to produce the same CO2 as a petrol car doing 50 mpg.
Not sure why nobody has yet made a diesel hybrid TBH. And why aren't there any hybrid buses out there? Lots of urban start/stop driving, they're already big and heavy with lots of room and they have the whole eco-bandwagon in their favour. I can feel a business plan coming on...
Not sure why nobody has yet made a diesel hybrid TBH. And why aren't there any hybrid buses out there? Lots of urban start/stop driving, they're already big and heavy with lots of room and they have the whole eco-bandwagon in their favour. I can feel a business plan coming on...
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18 May 2009, 05:09 PM
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Diesel hybrid makes perfect sense
Or a fully electric driven car with a diesel engine genset for power (like the Chevy Volt, but diesel not petrol).
The Prius makes no sense when a Mini D does 60mpg (that Ford/PSA 1.6d engine is pretty impressive for such a small diesel engine ). It not even any more environmentally friendly due to the materials its made of.
I was overtook by a Prius hammering it round some country lanes. I couldn't help but laugh as he was probably using more fuel than I was in my R32
Or a fully electric driven car with a diesel engine genset for power (like the Chevy Volt, but diesel not petrol).
The Prius makes no sense when a Mini D does 60mpg (that Ford/PSA 1.6d engine is pretty impressive for such a small diesel engine ). It not even any more environmentally friendly due to the materials its made of.
I was overtook by a Prius hammering it round some country lanes. I couldn't help but laugh as he was probably using more fuel than I was in my R32
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18 May 2009, 07:15 PM
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I read in a motoring journal (can't remember which one) that the Landcruiser sales subsidise the cost of building each Pious.
Makes a mockery of the whole green issue.
Makes a mockery of the whole green issue.
18 May 2009, 08:02 PM
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I remember reading some place the best "dust to dust" car that's cost to build/scrap/melt down was the Jeep Cherokee because engine/drive train/ ect are all used in lots of other vehicles and its steel so it can be re used easily and the Prius was awful because it was expensive to build difficult to recycle and like you all say its not that amazing mpg...So go out and buy a Cherokee lol maybe not.... but i suppose we have to start some place.
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19 May 2009, 01:08 PM
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If electric cars survive then this sort of technology has to come sooner rather than later .... BASF to develop 350-mile e-car 'super battery' ? Register Hardware
Even then, it's just an 'evolution' on what's there now. And where does the leccie come from even then???
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Even then, it's just an 'evolution' on what's there now. And where does the leccie come from even then???
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I never understood the appeal of the Prius. Its marketing hype and the "right on cool I believe Im doing something for my kids future Earth" brigade.
I can think of plenty of cars that will beat the fuel consumption of the Prius.
Toyota marketing dept must believe they can sell ice to Eskimos. May be they can use that in their next campaign......Buy a Prius or we'll have to sell ice to Eskimos........
I can think of plenty of cars that will beat the fuel consumption of the Prius.
Toyota marketing dept must believe they can sell ice to Eskimos. May be they can use that in their next campaign......Buy a Prius or we'll have to sell ice to Eskimos........
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