I work for a hosting company so I know how things work. on 9 out of 10 dedicated servers, the DNS is controlled on the same physical machine the website is on. especially when the DNS is custom registered for the site. Also as I said in the second past after, by checking the A record would confirm this. The method I proposed takes this into account. Your method, although perfectly valid, contained an assumption whereas mine did not. :D |
Robust? Hows this?
DNS records name class type data time to live freespirits.org IN NS ns1.freespirits.org 86400s (1d) freespirits.org IN NS ns2.freespirits.org 86400s (1d) freespirits.org IN NS ns3.freespirits.org 86400s (1d) freespirits.org IN A 207.139.168.104 86400s (1d) freespirits.org IN MX preference: 20 exchange: mail.freespirits.org 86400s (1d) freespirits.org IN SOA server: ns1.freespirits.org email: info@freespirits.org serial: 2003121001 refresh: 10800 retry: 3600 expire: 604800 minimum ttl: 86400 86400s (1d) freespirits.org IN TXT v=spf1 mx ~all 86400s (1d) 168.139.207.in-addr.arpa IN SOA server: ns.interlink.net email: root@ns.interlink.net serial: 2003120902 refresh: 3600 retry: 900 expire: 604800 minimum ttl: 0 86340s :D |
Katana: Nope, site still active
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Damn.
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I have forwarded this info onto the relevant person at the Police just in case they are not aware.
All the best Paul |
Hi,
If you are interested in reading this, here is an e-mail I have just sent to the company hosting the site: Hi, I am not sure if you are aware but it would seem you are hosting a website for the peadophilia community. As a moral individual I myself and many other people find this site completely sick and disgusting. It is a forum where people who consider themsevle 'boylovers' can comunicate with each other, mostly using code words or phrases to hide thier true meaning. From the checks I have done it would seem the site is hosted on a dedicated server, but i believe it still is covered by your terms of service. Quote: '2. Epifora, Inc.'s network and services may be used only for lawful purposes. Transmission, distribution or storage of any material in violation of any applicable law or regulation is prohibited. This includes, without limitation, material protected by copyright, trademark, trade secret or other intellectual property right used without proper authorization, and material that is obscene or defamatory, or violates export control laws.' Your terms and conditions would also appear to uphold your right to terminate a site for any reason Quote: '7. Epifora, Inc. may terminate your access to the Service and any related service(s) at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately, for any reason whatsoever.' The domain name in question is freespirits.org I am hoping that you will be able to take some form of action against this site as from what I can see it can easily be classed as a violation of your Terms and Conditions. I don't usually take this action when I come accross a site that I don't agree with but in this case the site is question can only be described as sick, morally and legally wrong. Domain details below I look forward to hearing from you. Kind Regards Phil Domain Details Address lookup canonical name freespirits.org. aliases addresses 207.139.168.104 Domain Whois record Querying whois.publicinterestregistry.net with "freespirits.org"... NOTICE: Access to .ORG WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the PIR registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and PIR does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator or any ICANN-Accredited Registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. All rights reserved. PIR reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. Domain ID:D71392997-LROR Domain Name:FREESPIRITS.ORG Created On:26-May-2001 01:41:07 UTC Last Updated On:22-Sep-2003 17:08:21 UTC Expiration Date:26-May-2006 01:41:07 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:R63-LROR Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:15384747-NSI Registrant Name:Free Spirits Registrant Organization:Free Spirits Registrant Street1:800 Place Victoria Registrant Street2:P.O Box 411 Registrant City:Montreal Registrant State/Province:QC Registrant Postal Code:H4Z 1J7 Registrant Country:CA Registrant Email:spirits@freedom.net Admin ID:16796787-NSI Admin Name:Free Spirits Admin Organization:Free Spirits Admin Street1:800 Place Victoria Admin Street2:P.O. Box 411 Admin City:Montreal Admin State/Province:PQ H4Z Admin Postal Code:1J7 Admin Country:CA Admin Email:admin@freespirits.org Tech ID:2595757-NSI Tech Name:EPIFORA INC. Tech Organization:EPIFORA INC. Tech Street1:6595, rue St-Hubert c.p. 59054 Tech City:MONTREAL Tech State/Province:QUEBEC Tech Postal Code:H2S 3P5 Tech Country:CA Tech Email:info@epifora.com Name Server:NS2.FREESPIRITS.ORG Name Server:NS1.FREESPIRITS.ORG Name Server:NS3.FREESPIRITS.ORG org = Non-Profit Organizations Querying whois.publicinterestregistry.net with "freespirits.org"... NOTICE: Access to .ORG WHOIS information is provided to assist persons in determining the contents of a domain name registration record in the PIR registry database. The data in this record is provided by Public Interest Registry for informational purposes only, and PIR does not guarantee its accuracy. This service is intended only for query-based access. You agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data to: (a) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission by e-mail, telephone, or facsimile of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations to entities other than the data recipient's own existing customers; or (b) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that send queries or data to the systems of Registry Operator or any ICANN-Accredited Registrar, except as reasonably necessary to register domain names or modify existing registrations. All rights reserved. PIR reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting this query, you agree to abide by this policy. Domain ID:D71392997-LROR Domain Name:FREESPIRITS.ORG Created On:26-May-2001 01:41:07 UTC Last Updated On:22-Sep-2003 17:08:21 UTC Expiration Date:26-May-2006 01:41:07 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:R63-LROR Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:15384747-NSI Registrant Name:Free Spirits Registrant Organization:Free Spirits Registrant Street1:800 Place Victoria Registrant Street2:P.O Box 411 Registrant City:Montreal Registrant State/Province:QC Registrant Postal Code:H4Z 1J7 Registrant Country:CA Registrant Email:spirits@freedom.net Admin ID:16796787-NSI Admin Name:Free Spirits Admin Organization:Free Spirits Admin Street1:800 Place Victoria Admin Street2:P.O. Box 411 Admin City:Montreal Admin State/Province:PQ H4Z Admin Postal Code:1J7 Admin Country:CA Admin Email:admin@freespirits.org Tech ID:2595757-NSI Tech Name:EPIFORA INC. Tech Organization:EPIFORA INC. Tech Street1:6595, rue St-Hubert c.p. 59054 Tech City:MONTREAL Tech State/Province:QUEBEC Tech Postal Code:H2S 3P5 Tech Country:CA Tech Email:info@epifora.com Name Server:NS2.FREESPIRITS.ORG Name Server:NS1.FREESPIRITS.ORG Name Server:NS3.FREESPIRITS.ORG Alternate resources: http://www.orgtransition.info/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?whois_query_field=freespirits.org http://www.orgtransition.info/cgi-bin/whois.cgi Network Whois record Querying whois.arin.net with "207.139.168.104"... Metrix Interlink Inc. INTERLINK02 (NET-207-139-0-0-1) 207.139.0.0 - 207.139.255.255 Epifora Inc. EPIFUU1 (NET-207-139-168-96-1) 207.139.168.96 - 207.139.168.127 # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-12-09 19:15 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. Querying whois.arin.net with "!NET-207-139-168-96-1"... OrgName: Epifora Inc. OrgID: EPIFOR Address: 6732 St Hubert City: Montreal StateProv: QC PostalCode: H2S 2M6 Country: CA NetRange: 207.139.168.96 - 207.139.168.127 CIDR: 207.139.168.96/27 NetName: EPIFUU1 NetHandle: NET-207-139-168-96-1 Parent: NET-207-139-0-0-1 NetType: Reassigned Comment: RegDate: 2001-06-25 Updated: 2001-06-25 TechHandle: JW1490-ARIN TechName: White, John TechPhone: +1-514-490-0935 TechEmail: sthubert@sympatico.ca # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-12-09 19:15 # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. DNS records name class type data time to live freespirits.org IN A 207.139.168.104 84893s (23h 34m 53s) freespirits.org IN NS ns1.freespirits.org 84893s (23h 34m 53s) freespirits.org IN NS ns2.freespirits.org 84893s (23h 34m 53s) freespirits.org IN NS ns3.freespirits.org 84893s (23h 34m 53s) freespirits.org IN SOA server: ns1.freespirits.org email: info@freespirits.org serial: 2003121001 refresh: 10800 retry: 3600 expire: 604800 minimum ttl: 86400 84893s (23h 34m 53s) freespirits.org IN MX preference: 20 exchange: mail.freespirits.org 84893s (23h 34m 53s) freespirits.org IN TXT v=spf1 mx ~all 84893s (23h 34m 53s) 168.139.207.in-addr.arpa IN SOA server: ns.InterLink.NET email: root@ns.InterLink.NET serial: 2003120902 refresh: 3600 retry: 900 expire: 604800 minimum ttl: 86400 86400s (1d) -- end -- |
Short and sweet!!!!
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I'll post whatever reply i get when and if i get one
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Nice one EvilKyote, a copy to http://www.iwf.org.uk would probably be a good idea too.
[Edited by ajm - 12/10/2003 12:55:46 PM] |
Just to clarify, DNS is rarely run off of the same machine as the webserver, that's bad infrastructure design. Also consider DNS round-robin, if you just check an A record once then you're not getting all the info. A zone transfer is what you need, which most people disallow for good reason. If I wanted to find the IP of a webserver the last thing I'd check is the IP of the DNS server(s), because they're irrelevant.
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My only concern about all this is that the site may exist to trap these pedarists and well meaning interference might mean these people escape justice and more children get harmed.
Tell the police by all means but all this amateur stuff is potentially counter-productive. |
Just to clarify, DNS is rarely run off of the same machine as the webserver, that's bad infrastructure design. Also consider DNS round-robin, if you just check an A record once then you're not getting all the info. A zone transfer is what you need, which most people disallow for good reason. If I wanted to find the IP of a webserver the last thing I'd check is the IP of the DNS server(s), because they're irrelevant. Also I was not refering to large company / corporate style dedicated server, as they would have decdicated DNS / mail / webservers etc to handle different aspects of the site. You just being picky! :P Maybe Narco, but you would think that they would take action to arrest these people, and generally convicted pedo's get a jail sentence. |
Can't be picky when it comes to IT, it's either right or wrong ;) The only reasons for interrogating a DNS server directly is if you're afraid a potential non-authorative answer will be wrong. You can't zone transfer if it's been disabled, and the www host may even be a CNAME as opposed to an A, you won't know until you look :)
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Besides which, if it were a site setup by the authorities I would think the hosting company would be aware of this.
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Hence why i did look! :p
Picky! :p:D |
Too scared to look myself as I dont fancy a visit at 3am from plod!
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Perhaps they are taking action to arrest these people and this is an ongoing thing, finding more and more of these criminals as it continues...................
As I say report it by all means but this wouldn't be the first time such a sting operation was ruined by well meaning people. |
Surely, this site cannot be real. Let's hope it is some sort of entrapment thing....
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STAY AWAY. Anyone looking at sites involving under age sex are just asking for trouble. If it's foreign nowt can be done by 'mere mortals'. However i am pretty sure 'people' are looking into this site and you do not want your address (forgive naievity, no idea when it comes to P.C.'s) coming up on systems do you?
Stay away. |
Just spoof your IP address and spam the freaks!
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The site is probably run by the police- at least I hope it is. Everyones IP is probably logged, checked and can now expect a visit from the law. Good. Could be Nacro. Because.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3329567.stm Any relation do you think? Was anyone aware through looking at the site, that it is a sting operation? [Edited by andrewdelvard - 12/18/2003 4:11:41 PM] |
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