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abre 01 February 2020 03:36 PM

Thanks John 37, will see what kind of wear it's got when it comes out.
Got the compression results the other day, not quite what I was expecting... Cyl 1 - 102, 2 - 130, 3 - 110, 4 - 130.
We'll have to wait & see what reveals itself when the heads are off.
Also found out that the dealer fitted Bosch plugs on the last change, not impressed.
Andrew

John 37 01 February 2020 05:45 PM

At 64k I would change the friction plate, release bearing and flywheel bearing. It's too much of a job to jot change them. Just consider not replacing the cover plate assembly.
your compression results are worrying. You may be able to see more when the heads are off but don't count on it. I replaced my head gaskets and was disappointed to not see any damage.
I don't want to worry you but many others have advised a bottom end rebuild while the engine is out.

abre 03 March 2020 08:43 PM

Finally the rebuild is complete.
As previously mentioned the head gasket on the left (cylinders 1 & 3) had failed, but turns out the loss of compression on that side was due to leaking exhaust valves.
Bores were in good condition and the pistons didn't necessarily need replacing, but I decided not to risk the possibility of a future ringland fail and get forged pistons fitted.
So heads, blocks & flywheel machined. New bearings, Omega pistons, proper head gaskets, head studs as well as all the other usual stuff like oil and water pumps, modine, cambelt etc and of course a new Exedy clutch plate, cover and bearings.
Collected it today and it runs as smooth as silk, just got to run it in for a 1000 miles, have an oil change and then back to business as usual.
I can't thank Howard at HDC enough for being able to fit the job in amidst all his other work, for his help and advice and for putting up with me constantly mithering him!
That said, I can feel nothing but contempt for Subaru and their use of what can only be classed as substandard parts on these engines.

Vxr2010 12 March 2020 02:32 AM

well at least yours is sorted now , i agree very poor of subaru and not even honest enough the accept the issues , if you are american then you seem to be having more luck than the uk over this , why could they not base the 2.5 more on the 2 litre as far as spec allows and have similar reliability

the shreksta 03 June 2020 03:11 PM

and another one to the list.............................................. ........

BrownPantsRacing 03 June 2020 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12082376)
and another one to the list.............................................. ........

Ah Sh1t. Yours gone pop Shrek?

the shreksta 03 June 2020 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing (Post 12082377)
Ah Sh1t. Yours gone pop Shrek?

the 2.5 in mine has gone twice pal before scoobyclinic built it.

im on about another member who will be posting on here shortly :(

Russell38 03 June 2020 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12082376)
and another one to the list.............................................. ........

Oh dear tell us more

the shreksta 03 June 2020 03:26 PM

not up to me to say really

Vxr2010 03 June 2020 03:30 PM

BPR , whilst you are on the site could you have a look at my thread on sports cat on a fsti and impart your knowledge please cheers , it would be good to find out how many have Not failed and mileage and tune etc

BrownPantsRacing 03 June 2020 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by Vxr2010 (Post 12082383)
BPR , whilst you are on the site could you have a look at my thread on sports cat on a fsti and impart your knowledge please cheers , it would be good to find out how many have Not failed and mileage and tune etc

Replied bud. :thumb:

prodrive.greeny 03 January 2021 03:30 PM

​​​​​My engines gone :cry:

2009 STI Hatch, standard other than PPP which was fitted at 2000 miles old.

Only had it for a month and covered 500 miles :wall:.

To be fair to the previous owner, there were no signs of it going until just now when started to knock under load.

I know what you're all thinking - I've thrashed the hell out of it being a new car but that's not the case. I've driven around like miss daisy and spent a small fortune on servicing myself since owning - oil change, coolant flush, new plugs etc.

Date bought: 2/12/2020
Mileage: 62900
Date of failure: 3/1/2021
Mileage: 63346
Outcome: Bottom end knocking

Anyway, time for a rebuild. What a ****e time of year to go

paulhchawner 03 January 2021 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by prodrive.greeny (Post 12096319)
​​​​​My engines gone :cry:

2009 STI Hatch, standard other than PPP which was fitted at 2000 miles old.

Only had it for a month and covered 500 miles :wall:.

To be fair to the previous owner, there were no signs of it going until just now when started to knock under load.

I know what you're all thinking - I've thrashed the hell out of it being a new car but that's not the case. I've driven around like miss daisy and spent a small fortune on servicing myself since owning - oil change, coolant flush, new plugs etc.

Date bought: 2/12/2020
Mileage: 62900
Date of failure: 3/1/2021
Mileage: 63346
Outcome: Bottom end knocking

Anyway, time for a rebuild. What a ****e time of year to go

Paul Finch if you need a recco

Tidgy 03 January 2021 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by prodrive.greeny (Post 12096319)
​​​​​My engines gone :cry:

2009 STI Hatch, standard other than PPP which was fitted at 2000 miles old.

Only had it for a month and covered 500 miles :wall:.

To be fair to the previous owner, there were no signs of it going until just now when started to knock under load.

I know what you're all thinking - I've thrashed the hell out of it being a new car but that's not the case. I've driven around like miss daisy and spent a small fortune on servicing myself since owning - oil change, coolant flush, new plugs etc.

Date bought: 2/12/2020
Mileage: 62900
Date of failure: 3/1/2021
Mileage: 63346
Outcome: Bottom end knocking

Anyway, time for a rebuild. What a ****e time of year to go



forge, closed deck it and away you go dude :) get it built by a reputable place though

prodrive.greeny 03 January 2021 05:51 PM

It's on its way to Enginetuner as we speak. Will be forged but just need to work out which way to go as hadn't planned this job so soon in ownership :cry:


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...23ff2936ec.jpg

The Joshua Tree 01 March 2021 08:25 AM

Sorry to all those that have had to put up with these failed 2.5 engines.

To save me searching and reading all the reports on the net about these failed 2.5 Subaru engine issues, why have Subaru not been held more accountable, it's basically a rally pedigree car that should have a strong engine, this doesn't seem the case from what has been reported by owners.

the shreksta 01 March 2021 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by The Joshua Tree (Post 12100061)
Sorry to all those that have had to put up with these failed 2.5 engines.

To save me searching and reading all the reports on the net about these failed 2.5 Subaru engine issues, why have Subaru not been held more accountable, it's basically a rally pedigree car that should have a strong engine, this doesn't seem the case from what has been reported by owners.

They simply don't care about customer loyalty and customer aftercare/service.
they didn't move with the times hence most modern diesels will show the latest wrx sti a cloud of dust.
**** subaru.
Nuff-said

hedgecutter 01 March 2021 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 12100064)
They simply don't care about customer loyalty and customer aftercare/service.
they didn't move with the times hence most modern diesels will show the latest wrx sti a cloud of dust.
**** subaru.
Nuff-said

Also not enough sold to make it worth starting a class action, unlike America.

CharlySkunkWeed 01 March 2021 10:12 AM

Think the best some got from them was the ****ty engine replaced with another ****ty engine. Was a very "lucky" few mind you.

Vxr2010 01 March 2021 10:41 AM

subaru’s engine failures were certainly part of their decline in sales , they did not get the diesels right either with the broken crank shafts , and now it’s appears difficult to get a new performance subaru

Rusti 01 March 2021 03:47 PM

that and the fact Subaru Europe are not interested in performance anything anymore they will focus on the Forester and Levorg as thats where the money is, bland as they are its what they sell now.

No coincidence the engine has essentially been the same for more than 20 years, its not worth investing in.

No its not really a rally car anymore Prodrive didn't even use the 2.5 lump in the works cars and I believe Subaru Rally team use a 2.0 as well.

Don Clark 01 March 2021 07:01 PM

The production of JDM version WRX, WRXSTI and Levorg models has currently ended and production for Australian and US versions (fewer emission restrictions than Europe) ending, I believe, with the current MY21.
A new JDM Levorg is due for release at the end of this March with hopefully WRX and WRXSTI to follow later this year and next as MY22/23 versions ??.

Whether or not, any will follow to Europe we will have to wait and see.

bioforger 02 March 2021 11:39 AM

This one? 394hp/497 Nm. CVT only?
https://www.autoblog.nl/files/2021/0...11-970x518.jpg
https://www.autoblog.nl/files/2021/0...13-970x518.jpg

Don Clark 02 March 2021 01:01 PM

WRX - 290ps and CVT WRXSTI - 400ps and 6MT

The original Japanese "Best Car" article has more info, translation below

http://translate.google.com/translat...scoop%2F250579
https://h5eogv7qy6wmdmgw3ctonzyuze--...190e87d6d1.jpg

Whether both or neither make it to Europe we will have to wait and see.

bioforger 02 March 2021 01:04 PM

yea seen that already, i hope they redesign those "square" arches, coz they are feckin hideous.

Don Clark 02 March 2021 01:30 PM

The new Levorg STI Sport

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...f64403df85.png

ditchyboy 08 May 2021 09:20 AM

Are the 2.5Ls in the 2014-19 final edition Sti as bad as the previous ones or were they strengthened changed following all the issues?

Vxr2010 08 May 2021 09:47 AM

I was speaking to an engine builder the block was apparently improved , the pistons i don’t think so

BrownPantsRacing 08 May 2021 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by ditchyboy (Post 12104214)
Are the 2.5Ls in the 2014-19 final edition Sti as bad as the previous ones or were they strengthened changed following all the issues?

Yep, almost exactly the same engine with exactly the same issues with Ringland and head gasket failures. Plus I've seen quite a few suffer from oil pickup pipe failure leading to oil starvation. Another thing to worry about. :)

Don Clark 08 May 2021 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by Vxr2010 (Post 12104217)
I was speaking to an engine builder the block was apparently improved , the pistons i don’t think so

?? - same original block part number 11008AA950 listed for MY08 - MY18, but for all years now superceded by 11008AA930 as replacement.
As far as short block assembly concerned.
Early MY08 10103AB850
Late MY08 > Mid MY09 *AB950
Late MY09 > Early MY18 *AC050
Late MY18> *AC890

All original part numbers supercede to 10103AC890


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