Hillclimbing, the 2007 Season Project.

21 March 2007, 09:19

As discussed last night with Graham. I'd like to see a more 'true' roadgoing class that distinguishes from those that are more 'race' orientated. ie. interior trim, mot, 1a's (dare I say!) etc compared to more stripped out, slicks, etc.
Perhaps we should jointly suggest this? - just a thought.

See you Saturday - probably just watching/chatting!

Martin

ps. may take the other halfs Golf up the hill !

21 March 2007, 09:23

Martin

I am going over on Saturday to have a look at what Graham is up to.

Received my Loton regs yesterday (car number 145 for the 8th/9th April).

Richard

21 March 2007, 16:41

The one to watch Gentlement is Faster Rob. That RA is friggin fast but have you seen the lead soles he wears?

I am serious about submitting a letter for a Road Class with a full definition of what that means.

My opening 'spec' is:

Any style of true production road car over 2000 cc.
1A tyres
MoT equiped, and taxed too (forces the MoT thing)
Full interior but not nessacerily the stock interior (Race seats ok)
4 point race harness and roll cage a must.
All suspension points/positions as stock and engine'box too.

Engine mods free. Transmission mods free, Brake mods free
Body mods free, glass windows.

Cars allowed on trailers.

To pick on Roger's AUDI, it would go into the Cii class with any production car on slicks/1B's.

ie If Roy wanted to run Kumho/slicks he goes into Cii (as I/Rob/Pete would if we wanted due to tyres)
ie If Roger Williams wanted to run his Morgan on 1A's he could enter Ci.

This would be a real battle as long as Tony Fletcher is running the Championship as he defines the classes I think, but if you don't try...

This spec is almost exactly as the classes were up until about 5 years ago when Sports and Saloons were split.

Cups of Coffee, bacon butties and a pow-wow at Loton?

Graham.

21 March 2007, 17:17

We shall chew the fat over this this weekend and probably for every weekend until October!

Get reading your blue books!

21 March 2007, 19:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911

Brakes convert energy and this is done by friction and heat dissipation.
I would think 'AP' type brakes give great retatdation in the early bite of braking, but not sure if you need them on a 50 second hill climb.
Each to their own.

Bedding in pads/discs is easy when you don't trailer the car!!

If the class went 'MoT' status again (as it was upto 3 years ago) the only car outside of that is the V8 Audi.

I like driving my Sti on the road to and hoefully from the events, and would certainly like to see a Road Class again, with any car in that class (ie 911's and Sti's) and anything on slicks in Cii Class.

Graham

Just buy some brakes like mine! i can brake about a 1mm from the apex! AP racing mmmmmmmmmm

21 March 2007, 19:07

Had my car on the rollers today, looks ok. Clutch clamping load is shot slips up around 4.800rpm more money down the pan!

21 March 2007, 19:40

Graham
Your class spec seems about right I think. If you say engine mods free, I assume that includes capacity increases?

Martin

21 March 2007, 20:09

You don't want to know what Rob's car made at the wheels.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete26

Had my car on the rollers today, looks ok. Clutch clamping load is shot slips up around 4.800rpm more money down the pan!

21 March 2007, 20:28

No i really dont, crossing 5 mph faster than me a curborough!

21 March 2007, 21:46

What was Rob's turbo again?
Pete: With 16'' rims I can't get your bells under, let alone the discs.
I think Loton will be a barrel of laughs, weather clear and 8 degC, so I think that will be 450 bhp at the wheels for Rob.

Why is Rob's torque relativly low for the bhp?

22 March 2007, 13:36

Been getting the other halfs Golf GT TDi ready today for a run up the hill !
Hope I haven't forgotten anything, timing strut, yellow tape on -ve battery lead, ignition 'off' arrow - anything else?

Martin

22 March 2007, 13:46

Martin

My understanding is that Clerk of The Course "likes" to have competitor's number on the FRONT of the car (as well as side views).

Graham will correct me if I am wrong.

Richard

22 March 2007, 14:57

Again? I don't think I mentioned the turbo, but I don't know about rob. The torque is low because it's a relatively slow spooler. A little dissapointing for me as it's worked better on other cars, but with robs gears and driving I don't think it will be an issue.

A little more fettling and we have another 13hp

Paul

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911

What was Rob's turbo again?
Pete: With 16'' rims I can't get your bells under, let alone the discs.
I think Loton will be a barrel of laughs, weather clear and 8 degC, so I think that will be 450 bhp at the wheels for Rob.

Why is Rob's torque relativly low for the bhp?

22 March 2007, 17:01

Rob told me, but I deleted my pm's due to space, but it is not important.

Martin: Richard is right, front numbers are MANDATORY now at Loton.
Small 'registration plate' size ones are good on the headlamp. Remember those on the doors! (and your license etc!!)

People dropping out like flies on sunday, so be ready for about 6 runs!!

22 March 2007, 17:38

Right, I'll sort some small numbers too.

Graham, if you recall I cancelled Sunday! - I thought risking the Golf on one day was enough!! - I'm under orders to drive "like an old giffer" especially as it's due a cam belt change.

Martin

22 March 2007, 18:21

turbo is md321h

22 March 2007, 18:59

Yep, I remember now Martin, started work at 5.00am today so a bit jaded..
I think you will be very surprised how good the car will be.
A Golf TDi raced last year and it surprised many in the class, infact: I think it won!

Weather on Sat looking cold but good.
Sunday a bit of a shower day. Just right for bhp and slicks.

We will see.

Graham