Bird Crap

Dario

Returned home yesterday to find some bird crap on the bonnet that seems to have baked on (after only a day). It appears to have burnt the laquer - anybody have any ideas how to get it out? - is this usual?

Regards

Dario

robski

Waiting for post from Mark "the wax wizard" Underwood, with some super remedy for bird cack removal ...

robski

barge

If its still on the car get it washed off ASAP. Then get a large gun and shot any flying ****e hawks you see in the sky. Then wait for a paint and polish god to tell you exactly what to do

leaskc

A few years ago my Citroen ZX got some baked on to the bonnet and it was sufficiently acidic that it burned through the paintwork and into the primer...

I was a bit short of cash at the time, (and anyway, my NCB was protected) so I claimed the insurance...400 of your finest beer tokens to respray the bonnet (ouch)

doesn't cause too much trouble now but the insurance quote people often get a laugh when they ask me about "any claims in the last five years"...

"Yes"
"What was it for"
"Bird crap on the bonnet ate through the paintwork"

)

the typical response is usually "was that a fault or a non-fault claim?"!!!

*doh*

(it was non-fault)

Dario

I want to know what birds eat to have acidic poo?

Dario

leaskc

...might have been alkaline I suppose...

are worms acidic?

nasty sh1t , regardless

Mark Champion

[lab coat on]
It is actually concentrated uric(sp) acid. Either that or they have been eating left overs from the curry shop.
[lab coat off]

If you clean and wax your car regularly this will protect you cars paint work from airborne assault (unless they have had vindaloo curry).
I had a bird poo on my the other day, it really dry up in the sun but when I came to clean it, it simply wiped off with no burning or staining. Waxed the car the day before.
I know this is no help to you now but I'm sure the Wax Wizard would give the same advice

Mark

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Nick

Dario

Contact Mark the Wax Wizard for one of his kits. You need the cleanser & then a good wax to protect the paint in future.

skipjack

it must be the time of year. mine has had a birdborne botty assault every day for the last two weeks.

at first i thought it was my wife flicking spoonfuls of yoghurt from upstairs but this was subsequently proved untrue.

it is in fact an albatross (or perhaps a blue-footed booby), judging by the size of the deliveries. i digress...

Dario

The car is waxed monthly with Zymol Concours wax but the bird crap went right through it! - how could it go through the Caranuba wax?

It wasn't white bird poo - it was brown or a rusty colour and was more like a cow pat! - urrgh

I might get a good car cover - as I've HD cleansed it but I can still see the stains in certain light

Regards

Dario

Yex

My car has been protected for nearly a year now by regular applications of Zymol products. The car is currently at my in-laws whilst I have some serious building work done at home. Here it has been subject to target practise by some of the local seagulls. I visit every 3-4 days to use/check/make sure her dad hasn't been playing in it When the car has had bird poo on it I just wipe it off with a damp cloth

Send Mark an e-mail at Wax Wizard - he's a very helpful guy.

Yex - air gun waiting when car comes home

DJB

Dario

Have you tried T-cut ?
This will upset wash-and-wax-weekly people but I have used Brasso (identical to T-cut) on a number of occasions for a variety of paintwork insults including superficial scratches and tar spots. It works a treat.

D.

Mark Underwood

Dario

The bird crap can be acidic aor alkaline deepending on where thou lives. The acidic bird poo is mainly coastal and inwards of 50 miles or so. This is the worst crap to come across (pardon the pun).

The use of such items like T cUt or brasso that contain ammonia (yuk, yuk) and also silcates (hard abrasives0 should be avoided. Yes they are good at removal but horribly damaging at the same time.

To remedey/remove do as follows:

Go to fridge and get a bit of margerine or butter. Smear over the affected area and allow to soak in. After say five minutes rub hard with the fingers and then wipe off with cloth.

If the void is still visible smear some hd cleanse onto a cloth and place cloth over the void. Place something heavy like a book and allow to soak in (overnight). Then wipe away and work in thoroughly using some pressure. Then wipe off and buff before cleanse dries. Rewax the affected panel and during the summer months apply wax more often.

We have now released our new Easy To Use Carnauba wax with 40% wax content....simply wipe on and featherdust to a brilliant lustre. Can even be used when cold or on hot panels and in direct sunlight. A whole panel or the whole car can now be waxed before buffing even if one buffs a few hours later or next day. Time to wax now down to less than 20 mins for large estate car. Ideal for interim waxings cos of the ease of use.

If HD Cleanse fails then ask me for a small sample of our Cleanse No 2 as this is stronger than zymol hd cleanse. Follow up with a waxing.

Hope this of help.

Wizard Of Wax

Dario

Thanks Mark and everybody for their advice

I'm going to give it a try over the weekend

Regards

Lee

skipjack

methinks you're all getting a bit technical here. bird craps on your scoob: spray with a general purpose kitchen surface cleaner (eg dettol surface cleaner). comes off immediately. then wax it. had to do it again this morning.

better still, shoot the b*****s that s**t on it in the first place. they do it when perched (as you do) so offering an easy and stationary target.

lokokkee

Skipjack, have you considered the possibility that you are a better driver than a shooter and may hit the Scoob instead of the sitting duck? Or you manage to hit it and it drops onto the Scoob below, causing a bigger dent?

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leaskc

the Wizard of Wax also appears to be a bit of a Wizz in the kitchen

I've got a couple of big "affected areas" on my own car at the moment so I'll give it a try (although I'm saving all that lovely wax for me new P1 )

mind you:
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oooooooer

Cam

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lokokkee

Wizard of Wax, is it possible to come up with a formulation with Teflon that will make the paint surface truly non-stick? If they can do it for the engine with Slick 50, it shouldn't be that difficult and one treatment may be good for 50,000 miles or whatever they claim for the oil additive.

Mark Underwood

Hi lokokkee

I'm already ahead of you on that one. We are conducting field trials on 2 new waxes (one liquid and one paste) that are based on tri technologhy (polymer, hard wax and carnauba wax). The end result is that the wax will only have to be applied once every six months to 9 months and will provide lasting protection as well as being detergent proof (resists neat truck wash).

results indicate that the gloss is excellent but not as deep as carnauba alone. Thats the downside. The paste wax is far superior to the liquid and both are easy to apply and are safe on plastics and rubbers etc.

When ready for release I'll make an anouncement.