sti ppp worth mapping? - Page 2

**Jolly Green Monster** · 06 July 2009, 08:29

mobile number is on here

3pm?

**bioforger** · 06 July 2009, 13:11

ya meet you there then

PM me if u need to rearrange for any reason, thanks.

Do i need to bring anything apart from the car n credit card

davedipster · 06 July 2009, 13:40

I found this interesting reading, a group test by Evo mag of sti upgrades on a 1/4mile straight using top notch timing stuff.

It compares the sti ppp pack with others on the market, including the popular tsl333 remap (a remapped ppp really)

It shows a difference of 0.4 of a second to 100mph between the ppp and the tsl333.
The in gear times are also very close in the low and mid range <0.5 second, but it does show that the tsl and most remaps rev higher so gains are made there. The ppp power drops off after 6k for mechanical sympathy.

Worth the £600 remap? I don't think so.

Nice to see some real timed data, rather than horsepower plots. After all, its the time that makes the difference

dipster

**bioforger** · 06 July 2009, 19:08

Yea but remaps aren't all about straight line performance n 1/4 mile times, the torque increases in the right places makes a big difference to the driving experience. Look at the ingear times between the PPP n TSL, there are some significant gains over the PPP there, especially in 4th, 5th n 6th. Plus you usually get an improvement in MPG, so the £600 is well spent in my book

You mention the 0-100, but the 0-130 is over a second quicker for the TSL

davedipster · 06 July 2009, 19:19

The best gains are at high revs in all gears, not low down.
Get a bigger turbo (MD321H) then a remap, then you get some real gains not parts of a second

dipster

**bioforger** · 06 July 2009, 19:45

Yea but that's even more £££. A remap on a standard car is the 1st step really and provides a decently quick road car going on past experience.

Luckyscoob · 06 July 2009, 21:41

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Originally Posted by bioforger

Yea but that's even more £££. A remap on a standard car is the 1st step really and provides a decently quick road car going on past experience.

Agreed. Having driven a PPP'd car both before and after a remap, different car altogether. Plus a jump of 50BHP and 30lbs of torque. Better all through the rev range.