Geds

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I am going to have to bite the bullet and invest in new Discs. I only really need front but since I'm most likely going to upgrade or switch brands it looks like I'll have to do the rear as well to keep it all looking sweet. The prices between Brembo Performance Drilled Discs off the web against the rest of the competition are wildly different. I mean can Brembo really justify the fact they are twice the price of the rest?!

I only do one track day per year. But in fairness that's what destroyed my stock front discs and has put me in this position.

Any views?

AS Performance

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would personally suggest GROOVED Brembo discs if you go that route and yes they are superior IMO to most other makes...........its the quality of both the original casting and actual material used that increases the cost

if you want the "best" option then the complete PFC 2pce option is the ultimate but more expensive again.......

we do various options from most manufacturers and can certainly help out on PFC ? Brembo pricing being one of the larger distributors - we also do some high quality more cost effective options

dont forget the pads and fluid also have a bearing on how the car performs, particuarly on track

0191-4103770

grey_boy

Try Eurocar parts- they do grooved discs and £££'s cheaper

I buy EVERYTHING from them, they supply most garages so you pay less...simples

Geds

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Cheers lads.

As performance - I'd be interested to see your pricing on a full set of discs for my 2007 Hawkeye Sti.

Brembo grooved all round. (Do the brembo grooved cool as well as the drilled?) send me a pm if you wish.

I've just stuck a full set of new brembo sport pads on and had the brake fluid replaced during service.

360ste

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From what I have read grooved are better because with the heating and cooling of the disc you can get cracking of the disc starting from the holes. I fitted DBA Discs to my bugeye when I had to replace the front and rear disc's worked perfectly well. A couple of years ago I fitted K-sport kit's front and rear with 356mm discs on the front, WOW what an improvement.

Psyweb

Just as an aside, in that first post is a pic showing a bunch of discs.

I had the drilled/vented Black Diamond discs on my 2003 Blobeye WRX... utter rubbish!! Don't buy!!

Rant over :-)

Geds

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Right lads I'm about to splash out 600 notes on a full set of Brembo Sport grooved. Can anyone talk sense into me before I do it?

Godspeed Brakes

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Blimey !!

I can supply you our discs , which I'd say are the most popular discs with members on here , they are grooved and the centres are painted black to help stop rusting , and come with a 12 month guarantee against warping even if you do track days for £199.50 for BOTH front AND rears.

Or our 2 piece front discs with black anodised bells , and one piece rear grooved discs with black painted centres , again both with our guarantee for £450

P&P is £15

£600 for front and rear grooved one piece discs is very expensive !

Geds

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Mate compared to the money your talking £600 is another world. And somewhat concerning. How can there be such a difference. I mean thats exactly the purpose and question of this post. Are Brembo worth it? You guys obviously have great products and lots of backup to prove it but how come such a gap?

I mean your pricing would allow me to go for your front 2 piece system which by all accounts report to be a superior solution. So would the Godspeed 2 piece front + rear in grooved be a superior solution to the Brembo performance grooved full set? Obviously you have to say yes but please help me to understand why?

Godspeed Brakes

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Brembo is a huge company with huge overheads basically , so shipping from Italy , the main importers mark up , the sellers mark up all add up , ok the discs are good but so are ours which is why we can offer a 12 month guarantee against them warping even if you do track days , Brembo don't.

As long as you're using a high carbon content disc then you are on the right track , which our are , as these will perform better , and more reliably than the cheap ebay stuff

Hope this helps
Cheers Ian

GIBEY D

Ive got pf 2 piece on front and godspeed grooved on back im happy with both brands

Geds

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OK Ian, Lets get something sorted. I'll PM you to finalise details.

ditchmyster

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Sorry to butt in, but how much is it for just the disc part of the 2 piece grooved fronts as I have the bells already and my discs have about a 1mm lip and i'm getting some judder once they get hot, which could be the pads but as they have about half life left in them I'll not be changing them for a while but just curious, and want to look into my options.

I have the godspeed /AP 4 pot combination that fits under 17's.

Godspeed Brakes

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Our rotors for our 2 piece Sti discs are £295 a pair inc vat and nuts and bolts , if you have our AP kit then the discs will be the same

Cheers Ian

Blue by You

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Sorry to hijack the thread, I do realise this is not the intention of this thread to discuss brake technology.
Ian guarantees his discs for 12 months against warping, thereby acknowledging the prospect that they might indeed warp, and yet in this article from stop-tech, which I'm sure has been seen by a great many enthusiasts, it almost completely rubbishes the 'myth' of disc warping.
http://www.stoptech.com/technical-su...nd-other-myths
I'm not having a dig at Godspeed products or services, but how can two reputable suppliers with seemingly opposing views both be right?
Or is this simply a guarantee that is guaranteed to work?
If you read this Ian I hope you see it in the light in which it was written.

Godspeed Brakes

iTrader: (259)

All discs can warp , we have skimmed all makes here to true them back up , and while I am skimming them it is clearly evident that they are definately warped , but you can also have other issue's which people automatically think its a warped disc , the biggest one is pad deposits.That article is good , but they are not saying a disc can't warp , but rather all the ones they checked it was pad deposits or hot spots caused by cementite

We offer a guarantee on our discs , not because we think they will warp , but to give the customer piece of mind that if they do have a problem , we can generally fix it , not like other makes fob them off and say ' well thats track use for you '

Hope this helps
Cheers Ian

Blue by You

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Thanks for your response Ian.
You're right in saying that article does not expressly say discs won't warp, merely that they have never seen a warped disc. It is written in a very authoritative manner which gives the impression that disc warping is a myth.

Geds

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I haven't read that article but following a pounding at Kirkistown - a track which is notoriously hard on brakes - my current OEM Brembo discs are well warped. Actually it may be my own fault because I thought they were on fire and chucked a bottle of water over them - WOW smoke and steam everywhere!!

Anyway back on topic - I am a bit of a brand freak so pondered this Brembo / Godspeed option for some time and really did consider buying Brembo. But there's no way I can justify paying x3 for Brembo. I don't know how they sell them.

Full set of Godspeed's on their way! Cheers Ian.

Jazzy Jefferson

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I'll buck the trend and say the godspeed disks (grooved) I have fitted aren't all that. They haven't warped, but I have had better. They don't fill me with confidence unfortunately.
You get what you pay for. Next time around I'll be fitting solid disks. Grooves just seem to be a gimmick to me.

ditchmyster

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How do you remove pad deposits and what is cementite?

Reason I ask is they judder quite a bit when hot, not being used to 2 peice discs i'm not sure if this is normal or what the cause could be.

Mine are a bit worn and have about a 1mm lip, would skimming and a set of new pads cure the judder when hot?

I only have the ferrodo ds2000 pads so don't expect too much from them, but they have been ok in the past for the odd sprited drive, but i'm tending to give them a little more hammer out here than I would in the UK.

ditchmyster

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That could be dependant on the pads your using, as I understand it the groves help to keep the pad face clean and fresh for better bite, but I could be wrong i'm sure Mr Godspeed will be along shortly to defend himself.

I personally have never had a problem with any of his products of which iv'e had a few, and his prices and service have been good too, all just in Imo of course.

ditchmyster

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Ok just read the article so I now know what cementite is.

But I have no idea what Garnet paper is presumably it's abrasive paper with Garnet in it, but what does it look like, google time me thinks.

Godspeed Brakes

iTrader: (259)

If you think the brakes aren't good enough it will be your pad choice not the discs , pad choice makes a huge difference in how they perform , what pads have you got fitted ?

The difference in plain or grooved discs is grooved discs will expel the gases given off the pads when the pads get hot reducing pad fade.

Fonzey

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Hi Ian, this is a purely "in theory" post as I've had no problems with my Godspeed disks at all.

If somebody sent their disks back to claim for "warped disks" and it turned out to be deposits instead, would you still skim them FOC or would it be a charge to the customer to get them done? From what I've heard/read it seems that 99% of "my disks are warped" complaints are actually just deposits.

Godspeed Brakes

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We would generally sort them for free in the 12 month period , most can be sorted by bead blasting them clean , 2 piece discs usually suffer from corrosion between the disc bell that stop them running true , once clean up they are good.

We generally skim them if they have a run out of up to 7 thou , worse than that we would renew them , tbh I can't remember the last time we did replace , it's a very small number we get back , considering the amount of discs we sell

ditchmyster

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How do you clean them as i'm out in croatia at the min, but I do have a sand blaster, so what would I need to do to clean mine up?

Jazzy Jefferson

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Well, at the time of fitting the disks, I also fitted Pagid pads, HEL brake lines, refurbed calipers and RBF600 fluid.

I'm sure the disks are fine, but for me, they don't seem to perform as well as others are reporting.

Godspeed Brakes

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It won't be the discs , what spec pads are you using ? I know pagid but there are loads of different types , what compound are you using

Jazzy Jefferson

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Can't recall I'm afraid, whatever is appropriate for a fairly standard car.

It IS the disks ;-)
The grooves on it are the problem for me, it ruins the feel and 'feels' like its not braking as well as it could be. I've never had this problem until fitting grooved disks. I'm sure, on paper, its braking very well and will work very well on track. But it doesn't feel like it on the road, if it results in a loss of confidence, it has to be changed.
I'm sure the performance is fine, lets face it, I've not crashed (yet) but better feel allows for better control.