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Old 20 January 2009, 16:59   #121 (permalink)
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Old 20 January 2009, 18:00   #122 (permalink)
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Thats fine if you want to send it back but it would be worth actually trying the radiator first as we have sold hundreds of these previously and that is the only one we have ever had problems with. It is more likely it was a manufacturing error with that radiator.



Regarding the FMIC fitting these radiators will fit fine. It is a bit of a tight fit and sometimes if you have 2 fans installed you have to trim the edge of the fan shroud but nothing brutal
My fan shroud was already trimmed to fit the intercooler pipework with the standard rad,there was no way the pipework would fit with this new rad. Plus the fact the holes for the fan bolts didn't line up anyway !

Has anyone in this group buy managed to fit this rad with a FMIC then ?

Plus,I spoke to someone earlier who said the fitting issues i've had are exactly the same as what people have experienced when trying to fit an ally rad bought on ebay
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Old 20 January 2009, 21:39   #123 (permalink)
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So its defo not going to fit with a FMIC then!!!
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Old 20 January 2009, 21:44   #124 (permalink)
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So its defo not going to fit with a FMIC then!!!
Well,I tried it and there was no way it was going in there no matter what I tried.
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Old 21 January 2009, 12:34   #125 (permalink)
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I know these have definatly been fitted with FMIC's before on many occasions but tracking down someone who can send / post pictures is proving difficult.


Can some one on here who has bought the radiators post some pictures up to show where the intercooler pipe would go please?
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Ed@Japspeed - Received the refund through paypal today plus the postage costs

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Hi just been reading all the post's and i'm a bit woried!! my scoobs is a 98 uk turbo with air con but NO FMIC and i have no plans at the mo to have one will this still fit? and if i was going to get a FMIC what rad will fit with all the pipe work?

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Hi just been reading all the post's and i'm a bit woried!! my scoobs is a 98 uk turbo with air con but NO FMIC and i have no plans at the mo to have one will this still fit? and if i was going to get a FMIC what rad will fit with all the pipe work?

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I would say this would fit with no FMIC but it's not a brilliant fit tbh. If you are planning on fitting a FMIC then I would stick with the standard rad
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Old 23 January 2009, 00:08   #129 (permalink)
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Ed, I would like a refund please mate.

Where do I need to send this rad???
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Ed, I would like a refund please mate.

Where do I need to send this rad???
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I was looking at someones front mount yesterday to see how the pipes go. I think it would be a bit of a squeeze by the bottom hose. i don't have air con on mine so i think i may be able to move my fan to the other side or trim a bit off my fan shroud.

Edit:- It was a Autobhan 88 front mount.
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I was looking at someones front mount yesterday to see how the pipes go. I think it would be a bit of a squeeze by the bottom hose. i don't have air con on mine so i think i may be able to move my fan to the other side or trim a bit off my fan shroud.

Edit:- It was a Autobhan 88 front mount.
I'd be surprised if you got it to fit. You have to trim the fan shroud to enable the pipework to fit with the standard rad so I can't see it going in with the Japspeed rad,if it did it would be so tight it would probably end up damaging the pipe !

I've spoke to a few people about these rads now and they seem to have exactly the same fitment issues as the ebay ones do
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Ed, I would like a refund please mate.

Where do I need to send this rad???
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I'd be surprised if you got it to fit. You have to trim the fan shroud to enable the pipework to fit with the standard rad so I can't see it going in with the Japspeed rad,if it did it would be so tight it would probably end up damaging the pipe !

I've spoke to a few people about these rads now and they seem to have exactly the same fitment issues as the ebay ones do
Bit confused with this as I have a hybrid front mount fitted to my RA. I have the fan fitted to the RH side of the standard radiator and have had to make no modifications to the fan shroud at all
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Where do I need to send this rad???
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If you drop me a PM i will send you the details over
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Bit confused with this as I have a hybrid front mount fitted to my RA. I have the fan fitted to the RH side of the standard radiator and have had to make no modifications to the fan shroud at all

If you look closely you should notice that the fan shroud either touches or is very,very close to the pipework. With the movement of the engine etc the fan shroud can cut into the pipework so you need to trim it to prevent this from happening.

Paul @ Zen made me aware of this and says it's common to see holes in the pipework caused by this problem
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Hi Guys just to let you know these are back in stock now

All the people that have called and placed orders i will get these out asap for you and if any one else is after one please give me a call on 08450 212312.
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If you look closely you should notice that the fan shroud either touches or is very,very close to the pipework. With the movement of the engine etc the fan shroud can cut into the pipework so you need to trim it to prevent this from happening.

Paul @ Zen made me aware of this and says it's common to see holes in the pipework caused by this problem
My pipework is no where near the radiator I will get some pics tonight and post them up before it is all stripped out
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My pipework is no where near the radiator I will get some pics tonight and post them up before it is all stripped out
Don't understand that,unless you have different fans to me or something

I've just fitted a brand new Hybrid RS FMIC with a new standard rad and had the fan shroud not already been trimmed then it would have needed to be.

I'd be interested to see your pics as i've seen quite a few Classics with FMIC's fitted and they are all the same as mine
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Yeah i'm interested to see them aswell
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You guys just have no patince do you, some of us are busy and cant lurk around here all day

Anyway Sorry about the pics but I had stripped some of the front end when I remembered so put the pipe that I assume matters most for the radiator issues back on and took a couple of pics. I only have the one fan which is on the drivers side of the radiatir. I have quite a bit of clearance around the pipe and the radiator could be wider without interfering with my set up. I must admit I am not to worried as I will be moving all the intercooler pipes but that isnt the issue here.





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Thats the problem, we have 2 fans and it will just not fit!!!
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Thats the problem, we have 2 fans and it will just not fit!!!
In which case there is no problem with sending it back. As i said just drop me a PM and i will send you the details to return it to and we can refund you
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You guys just have no patince do you, some of us are busy and cant lurk around here all day

Anyway Sorry about the pics but I had stripped some of the front end when I remembered so put the pipe that I assume matters most for the radiator issues back on and took a couple of pics. I only have the one fan which is on the drivers side of the radiatir. I have quite a bit of clearance around the pipe and the radiator could be wider without interfering with my set up. I must admit I am not to worried as I will be moving all the intercooler pipes but that isnt the issue here.





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Anyone fitted their classic rads yet ? I've just tried fitting mine today and it doesn't fit at all

Its too wide and too thick,just won't go in no matter what I tried.

Here's a couple of pics i've just taken to show the problem,as you can see there's no way it's going in there !




Here's the standard rad in place to show the difference:


So has anyone else had this problem ? Have I got a rad for a different model or something ?
Sorry but my set up is not the same as yours. For a start I have a huge gap between my RH fan and the power steering pulley which you dont and that suggests to me a problem somewhere. I dont have a LH fan and as such could probably have a radiator around half an inch wider than the standard with no issues.
I still think there is something strange with your set up as the second pic above shows something which looks like an air con radiator sitting between your normal radiator and the slam panel this appears from the pics above to be pushing the main radiator/fans to close to the pulleys.
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Sorry but my set up is not the same as yours. For a start I have a huge gap between my RH fan and the power steering pulley which you dont and that suggests to me a problem somewhere. I dont have a LH fan and as such could probably have a radiator around half an inch wider than the standard with no issues.
I still think there is something strange with your set up as the second pic above shows something which looks like an air con radiator sitting between your normal radiator and the slam panel this appears from the pics above to be pushing the main radiator/fans to close to the pulleys.
The reason I didn't have a gap between the fan and power steering pulley was because the Japspeed rad didn't fit !!

The air con radiator is where it's supposed to be and doesn't come anyway near to pushing the rad towards the pulleys.

I have now fitted a brand new standard rad and it all fits perfectly as it should do.

If you do abit of searching for 'Cheap ebay radiators' you will find a few reports of people having EXACTLY the same fitment issues as I did.
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The reason I didn't have a gap between the fan and power steering pulley was because the Japspeed rad didn't fit !!

The air con radiator is where it's supposed to be and doesn't come anyway near to pushing the rad towards the pulleys.

I have now fitted a brand new standard rad and it all fits perfectly as it should do.

If you do abit of searching for 'Cheap ebay radiators' you will find a few reports of people having EXACTLY the same fitment issues as I did.
Hi 340bhp-wrx, We are not sure what the problem was with your radiator not fitting, it just seems to have been a one off with your vehicle as we have since had the radiator you had fitted to a vehicle and it went straight on with no problems The standard radiator will no doubt fit fine as it is much smaller than the alloy one which is bigger for increased cooling.

As you are the only person who has ever had fitment issues with this radiator not aligning up correctly or sitting far enough forward i can honestly say it is not a problem with the radiator. Many people on here have taken us up on the group buy and have fitted theirs fine.

You keep seeming to bump this post up with negative comments, even after we spent a long time trying to figure out a solution for you and then gave you a full refund including your return postage. We as paying authorised traders try our best to make sure every customer is happy with their purchases. With this one off incident on your car you are not helping us as traders on this site even after we have dealt with you in a professional manner.

I think you have made your point very clear and i hope we can now put this to bed, as all the radiators we are selling have been fully tried and tested before being put on here for sale and have no issues with fitment.

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does that include fitment issues with a front mount or std intercooler i sk cause i got mine the same time as 340-wrx and i wont be having mine fitted for a while so will it be ok with a front mount ?
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Hi 340bhp-wrx, We are not sure what the problem was with your radiator not fitting, it just seems to have been a one off with your vehicle as we have since had the radiator you had fitted to a vehicle and it went straight on with no problems The standard radiator will no doubt fit fine as it is much smaller than the alloy one which is bigger for increased cooling.

As you are the only person who has ever had fitment issues with this radiator not aligning up correctly or sitting far enough forward i can honestly say it is not a problem with the radiator. Many people on here have taken us up on the group buy and have fitted theirs fine.

You keep seeming to bump this post up with negative comments, even after we spent a long time trying to figure out a solution for you and then gave you a full refund including your return postage. We as paying authorised traders try our best to make sure every customer is happy with their purchases. With this one off incident on your car you are not helping us as traders on this site even after we have dealt with you in a professional manner.

I think you have made your point very clear and i hope we can now put this to bed, as all the radiators we are selling have been fully tried and tested before being put on here for sale and have no issues with fitment.

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Ed,I did make a point of telling people on here how well you dealt with my problem and that you quickly gave me a full refund including my postage costs.

However,i'm getting abit annoyed with people trying to tell me it's an issue with my car and not the rad eventhough they haven't seen my car in person or how badly the rad would have fitted. It could have been made to fit which I did state but it certainly didn't fit comfortably.

After doing some research I found out that fitment issues with this type of alloy rad is common. This type of rad with straight edges all the way down fouls on the chassis leg of the wrx,not sure if that is the case with uk models aswell but I would imagine that it is.Not slating your products,just stating facts. Some people might be happy with the fit of your rads but I wasn't,at the end of the day it's down to personal choice.

Did anyone ever come back with pics of the rad fitted to a car with a FMIC ?
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