Subaru Discussion Forums

Go Back   ScoobyNet > Technical / Subaru Modifications > Wheels, Tyres & Brakes

Wheels, Tyres & Brakes
Sponsored by

Welcome to ScoobyNet.com!
Subaru forum
Welcome to the ScoobyNet.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, at no cost, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 09 June 2005, 17:31   #1 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Rock
Posts: 1,347
Default Locking wheel nut removal HELP!

My car is fitted with Mcguard locking wheel nuts, today while it was sunny i thought of rotating the wheels because of wear and found that one of the locking wheel nuts would not budge, so in the process of trying to remove it i have scratched the f**k out of my 4 month old PFF7's and completely buggered the head of the nut, admitting defeat i took it to 2 local tyre shop who both failed to remove the little f**ker and added a few more marks on the rim for good measure.

So the question is does anyone know someone that can get the useless piece of s**t of my wheel?

Know wonder Mcgard are so effective at stopping thieves from nicking your wheels, the only problem is they also stop you from removing them.
RoRu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09 June 2005, 19:01   #2 (permalink)
Scooby Senior
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1,901
This is my Scooby.  To set up your own Scooby, go to your user cp, and click 'Edit Settings'.
Default

yhpm
ticky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 June 2005, 11:52   #3 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
2005 Subaru Impreza
My Garage
 
bioforger's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Swindon
Posts: 9,193
Default

Air chiesel
bioforger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 June 2005, 12:00   #4 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 2,644
Default

Does anyone else have Mcgard locking wheel nuts?

Is this a common problem?

TIA

Buck
Buckrogers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 June 2005, 13:20   #5 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The Rock
Posts: 1,347
Default

Well i managed to remove the locking wheel nut today using the method ticky suggested.


In my moment of jubilation i did'nt think of the implications of posting the method used,

Last edited by RoRu; 12 June 2005 at 10:38. Reason: Because i'm a numpty!
RoRu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 June 2005, 02:50   #6 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,084
Default

there was a reason ticky sent you the instruction via PM
Ray_li is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 June 2005, 06:13   #7 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 197
Default

Roru, muck like Ray's point I'd have kept the method of success quiet! Might be worth editing your post to remove the statement.

Kevin
The Incredible Hulk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12 June 2005, 10:38   #8 (permalink)
Scooby Senior
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1,901
This is my Scooby.  To set up your own Scooby, go to your user cp, and click 'Edit Settings'.
Default

I agree with both Ray & The Hulk.
RoRu you do need to edit some part of your post.
ticky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01 March 2006, 13:52   #9 (permalink)
Moderator
2003 Subaru Impreza
 
DJ Dunk's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Not all those who wander are lost
Posts: 16,191
Default

Same problem here, can anyone help ?
DJ Dunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01 March 2006, 14:07   #10 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Scotland, UK
Posts: 10,502
Default

Dunk,

first try tightening the other wheel nuts so that it relieves some of the pressure on the one that is stuck. hopefully that'll be enough to undo it.

If you manage to remove it, put some copper grease on the threads to stop them seizing again.

Stefan
ozzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01 March 2006, 14:39   #11 (permalink)
Moderator
2003 Subaru Impreza
 
DJ Dunk's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Not all those who wander are lost
Posts: 16,191
Default

Thanks Stefan, I'll give it a go when I get in.

Anyone know what the above 'magic' solution is ? A PM would be really appreciated.
DJ Dunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01 March 2006, 23:05   #12 (permalink)
Scooby Senior
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1,901
This is my Scooby.  To set up your own Scooby, go to your user cp, and click 'Edit Settings'.
Default

yhpm
ticky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 March 2006, 12:33   #13 (permalink)
Old Git
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 1,698
Default

Handbook advises against greasing threads. This alters design intent of torque setting on clean dry thread and may overstress bolts on tightening.
D1CCY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 March 2006, 12:36   #14 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Scotland, UK
Posts: 10,502
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by D1CCY
Handbook advises against greasing threads. This alters design intent of torque setting on clean dry thread and may overstress bolts on tightening.
That's interesting; I'll check what mine says. Thanks for the heads-up
ozzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 March 2006, 12:39   #15 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Scotland, UK
Posts: 10,502
Default

So it does. Thanks again for pointing that out.
ozzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02 March 2006, 16:26   #16 (permalink)
Moderator
2003 Subaru Impreza
 
DJ Dunk's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Not all those who wander are lost
Posts: 16,191
Default

Subaru Assistance are on the case (bit cheeky to call them, I know )

Anyway, no luck so far with the suggested methods or with a reverse thread cutter, which just grips the outer case and spins Looks like she may be heading for the workshop to have it drilled out.
DJ Dunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03 March 2006, 22:48   #17 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,063
Default

ok i have problems do a search....anyway my method was get a diamond drill bit or som1 who has 1, a strong drill, a grinder to sharpen the drill bit then drill the fecking stud!!!!! it works! i know i had to get my mcguards off

cong
cong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 March 2006, 00:27   #18 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 3,333
Default

I had a problem with mine a while back see here;

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419816

ticky if you have some pearls of wisdom I would appreciate it if you could PM me and I will bear it in mind if I have a problem in the future.

Damian.
SPEN555 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 March 2006, 20:54   #19 (permalink)
Scooby Regular
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Oct 2001
Posts: 67
Default the resolution to your problem, garaunteed

a company called dynomec do a locking wheel nut remover,i bought a kit a £125 as i have a few cars that have needed it, if you do not want to buy the kit phone dynomec and they will be able to tell you of a guy in your area that will be able to remove it,cost circa £10 per wheel, maybe slightly more a the blade he will use on the mac guards are disposable ones,costing £5 each blade.one blade will do all 4 nuts as it moulds itself into the nut.hope this helps.
ricosuave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 March 2006, 21:34   #20 (permalink)
Scooby Senior
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1,901
This is my Scooby.  To set up your own Scooby, go to your user cp, and click 'Edit Settings'.
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPEN555
I had a problem with mine a while back see here;

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=419816

ticky if you have some pearls of wisdom I would appreciate it if you could PM me and I will bear it in mind if I have a problem in the future.

Damian.
yhpm
ticky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06 March 2006, 18:09   #21 (permalink)
Moderator
2003 Subaru Impreza
 
DJ Dunk's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (4)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Not all those who wander are lost
Posts: 16,191
Thumbs up

Massive thanks to Walldonway Subaru in Maidstone who managed to drill the offending article off of my car today . . . . totally free of charge

Also had a free hire car from Subaru Assistance for the 2 days I was without my car. Top service
DJ Dunk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24 February 2009, 19:53   #22 (permalink)
Scooby Newbie
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2
Default

Hi all,

After googleing it seems that maybe one of you guys may be able help with Mcguard wheel nuts.
Just got the car from a dealer and found the key is missing, dealer is refusing to help.
Sorry to bring this thread back after 3 years but any pearls of wisdom appreciated.
fred vfr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 February 2009, 08:21   #23 (permalink)
Old Git
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 1,698
Default

If you've only just got the car then I'd say the dealer is fully responsible for resolution. The car won't be much use at the first puncture. Have you searched the car well, key might be hidden somewhere or in the bottom of the small plastic tool bag. I'd have another go at them and/or contact trading standards. Are they the standard nuts or the ultra ones with the hardened steel spinner.

Failing that the easiest advice is to take it to your local tyre depot as they're generally used to dealing with this sort of thing.
D1CCY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 February 2009, 09:26   #24 (permalink)
Scooby Newbie
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2
Default

Unfortunatly they are the Ultra nuts, with the spinner. There's hardly any clearence around the nut so driving a socket on won't work.

The dealer has offered to pay for removel now, so just need to find a willing tyre place. Tried Kwik Fit but they were not keen to get involved.

.
fred vfr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 February 2009, 13:47   #25 (permalink)
Old Git
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 1,698
Default

Never rated Kwik Fit. Sounds like a job for your yellow pages.
D1CCY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20 March 2009, 11:39   #26 (permalink)
Scooby Newbie
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1
Default mcgard lockers problems

Hi All, just thought I would put my experiences here as these little horrors seem to be a problem for loads of people and I gained some valuable info from this thread,
First off, if your key gets mangled you wont get the nuts off, you will probably ruin the rest trying, New mccards are anything from just over £20 to about £40 trying to get a new key is a pain, Halfords sell a laser tool to remove these things, it is a reverse thread device 9 brand name Laser) which actually fits the mcgard perfectly, you screw it on to the mcgard anticlockwise and keep going till the bolt comes out, then grind a couple of flats on the conical bit of the bolt, and stick it Firmly in a vice, proceed then with a T bar in the laser to whack it clockwise to remove the laser from the mcgard, you can then repeat with the next one ( I replaced all of my mcgards after one broke and knackered the key) a new key from mcgard is 18 euros, which might do the job but the laser tool from Halfords is £10-99, a new set of locking wheel bolts (not mcgard, but wolfrace) was £3-50 plus postage (ebay), last tip, try tightening the other wheel bolts by an extra 20lbs to ease the pressure on the stuck mcgard, afterwards re tighten them all to the proper torque setting.
This tool even worked with the broken mcgard ( one third of the top rim missing)
above all don't panic, I guess halfords does have its uses after all.
tobaldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 April 2009, 14:27   #27 (permalink)
Scooby Newbie
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Sussex
Posts: 3
Default

Reverse thread types will only remove some types of locking nut, a company called Dynomec has a tool that will remove all nuts, but it is only available to the trade. If you give them a call on 01977 520666, they will give you the address of any places near to you that have their tool. (I don't work for them, just found them on the net last week after having a problem myself).
sussextyre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 June 2009, 12:30   #28 (permalink)
Sal
Scooby Newbie
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1
Default

I've got the same problem too - Ticky, can you pm me? I'm in the west midlands so are you a trader who offers this as a service?

Cheers,
Sal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28 June 2009, 14:43   #29 (permalink)
STI6
1999 Subaru Impreza
 
yellow sti6's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 1,582
Send a message via MSN to yellow sti6
This is my Scooby.  To set up your own Scooby, go to your user cp, and click 'Edit Settings'.
Default

Got the same problem.

cant bloody find my key/socket .
__________________
STi 6
yellow sti6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29 June 2009, 18:51   #30 (permalink)
STI6
1999 Subaru Impreza
 
yellow sti6's Avatar
 
Trader Score: (0)
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Derbyshire
Posts: 1,582
Send a message via MSN to yellow sti6
This is my Scooby.  To set up your own Scooby, go to your user cp, and click 'Edit Settings'.
Default

BTTT
__________________
STi 6
yellow sti6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
bolt, dynomec, lock, locking, mcguard, nut, nuts, removal, remove, remover, remving, rim, sheered, stuck, wheel


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 19:00.


Important - Opinions expressed are not necessarily the opinions of ScoobyNet or any individuals directly or indirectly involved in this website or the companies and individuals associated with it. No responsibility is taken or assumed for any comments or statements made on this or any associated or relating bulletin board. Your personal information will be kept private except to comply with applicable laws or valid legal reasons.

LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.2.0 © 2008, Crawlability, Inc.